Anyone else feel this way?

I'm definitely sure that it's not just me and my brother (as well as my younger sis), that feels that society is ok with sexism/discrimination towards men.

My brother was watching a YouTube video regarding the issue

I'm starting to think that the reason people think this is because the media usually portrays men to be evil sex perverts and pedophiles. Law and Order SVU for example usually portrays mostly men as the criminals.

When it comes to rape, how many people actually take male rape seriously? Doing a survey of 20 people at my school (I should have done a bit more though), only two of them took it seriously while 11 thought it was impossible. The other 7 said various of "I find it funny." Back when I used to watch Family, I can name a couple of examples of people disregarding male rape simply because the characters was male. At one point, Lois states that "It's impossible for a woman to rape a man." There was also an episode where Peter was raped by a sentient bull with no one doing anything at all. Yea it was played for laughs. I've never been raped before nor do I know anyone who has, but the fact that the general public either shrugs/laughs it off. The media has pretty much posed many individual's minds to think that men are supposed to be big brutes incapable of taking pain and bullets to the heart even by other men.

For domestic abuse, I remember once watching a show called "The Proud Family". That show portrayed men as bumbling idiots while many of the female characters were the smarter and brighter ones. This show was also a big promoter of the Double Standard. Once a female character considered cheating on her husband for Denzel Washington causing the characters (man included) to laugh. When her husband responds by saying he'll cheat on her for Halle Berry, his wife and daughter promptly stop laughing and proceed to injure the man's ALREADY injured foot. Other times in the show, his wife and mother would constantly beat or abuse him most times he disagrees with one or the other while it's played for laughs. I should let you know that this man is very scrawny. Much more so than his own wife and mother. The show even constantly states this as well. Society needs to realize that not all men are built to be 6'0 brutes of muscles.

I find it funny how women 100 years ago and today were allowed to freely state their problems with sexism yet men do the same thing only to be called "pussies" or "not real men". The problem is that now that feminazis and feminazi supporting men are bashing men, they're doing the same to me what they did 100+ years ago to women.

Interesting thread. Few weeks ago. I was watching a documentary about battered husbands. It says that before only men is allowed to do it. But as time goes by, the women can do it too, to their partners. It is said in survey that about ten people, six of them are always get hitted, and battered by their wives. I find it untrue at first. But I guess women rights are gotten more stronger now. But I believe that still more of women are getting raped and get hitted than men. But being feminazi is not good at all times. Just like beating guys by their partners is not funny at all.

My wife beats me up. She physically abuses me. After a long day she, usually after a few drinks, likes to smack me around, and make me do things. She also expects a meal on the table every night! She says I make her do it! I make her have to kick my ass! But I cant leave...I mean, I still have my CDs in her truck. Thats like 40 or 50 CDs, I cant just walk away from that. What can I dooo???

I don't think anyone is okay with sexism or discrimination toward men. Most media sources portray men as predators because it is very rarely females in this role. The only disturbing trend I see today is the fact that as females gain more equality in a society, the men of the society begin to throw tantrums and try to play the victim card all the time. It's getting extremely ridiculous in the US. It's just backlash caused by a normally powerful group losing the unfair edge they once had. Same reason the news is full of outraged religious groups because religion is quickly dying.

Aegis wrote:

I don't think anyone is okay with sexism or discrimination toward men. Most media sources portray men as predators because it is very rarely females in this role. The only disturbing trend I see today is the fact that as females gain more equality in a society, the men of the society begin to throw tantrums and try to play the victim card all the time. It's getting extremely ridiculous in the US. It's just backlash caused by a normally powerful group losing the unfair edge they once had. Same reason the news is full of outraged religious groups because religion is quickly dying.

How do you know that these men playing the victim card aren't really abused? Just because women in your case "very rarely" commit predator crimes doesn't mean it's still ok to only put men as predators in media. I'm not throwing any tantrum regarding women trying to gain equality. I'm upset that some women claim they want equality yet when a situation doesn't go their way, they'll play the "I'm a woman card" despite claiming wanting to be treated like men.

TAKE THE TRUCK AND DRIVE SPIKE!!!! YOU CAN LIVE WITH ME

My girlfriend also kicks the shit out of me all the time (well she tries) She does more damage to herself than to me lol

RebelliousQueen wrote:

Interesting thread. Few weeks ago. I was watching a documentary about battered husbands. It says that before only men is allowed to do it. But as time goes by, the women can do it too, to their partners. It is said in survey that about ten people, six of them are always get hitted, and battered by their wives. I find it untrue at first. But I guess women rights are gotten more stronger now. But I believe that still more of women are getting raped and get hitted than men. But being feminazi is not good at all times. Just like beating guys by their partners is not funny at all.

I wish more people like you lived in my City. Most people still believe that all women are weak and fragile therefore believing that they're capable of doing no harm to anyone including themselves.

Why is this forum so full of people that read more into what I say than I actually do? I never said only men are predators, and it is factually wrong to say the media portrays only men as predators. I also did not say that all men play the victim when they really aren't. Some men are abused. But this whole issue has been blown so far out of proportion lately, and it seems pretty obvious to me that it is a reaction of a once powerful group (men) losing power, and trying to skew reality to gain power back over women by preventing a foothold in equality for women. Both genders should be treated equally. I think we all agree there.

Everyone will not be treated all the same.

Aegis wrote:

Why is this forum so full of people that read more into what I say than I actually do? I never said only men are predators, and it is factually wrong to say the media portrays only men as predators. I also did not say that all men play the victim when they really aren't. Some men are abused. But this whole issue has been blown so far out of proportion lately, and it seems pretty obvious to me that it is a reaction of a once powerful group (men) losing power, and trying to skew reality to gain power back over women by preventing a foothold in equality for women. Both genders should be treated equally. I think we all agree there.

It's because of the way you word things. I for one am not mad about women wanting equality because they're humans just like men, but some of them out there are trying to become the very thing they spoke out against. I'm only reacting to this because women seem to get away with doing things that men couldn't ever get away with. If she beats her husband out of self defense, she's a hero. If it's a man fighting back in self-defense, he's an abusive cunt who should have "taken it like a man." If a woman rapes two guys while drugging them, it's her fetish. If it's a guy does the same thing, he's a pig. I'm not saying that everyone will say that, but the general public may see it that way because they find female on male rape ridiculous and even hilarious.

@Teh Spike: You're right about that. It may never be 100%, but we can get it close.

Abusers are abusers,regardless if they are male or female,so I'm not surprised that some men are being abused by women.

I guess I'll have to start using small words written in crayon. I have no idea what you are talking about with women being able to rape men and get away with it. Do you have some recent examples of this? Or of women beating their partners with backlash against the man defending himself?

Aegis wrote:

I guess I'll have to start using small words written in crayon. I have no idea what you are talking about with women being able to rape men and get away with it. Do you have some recent examples of this? Or of women beating their partners with backlash against the man defending himself?

No. You just need to quit trying to sound like some smart-ass intellect. You're setting a bad example for other 14 year olds.


When it comes to women trying to beat men down. I'm using myself as an example. Plenty of the women in my community feel the need to make attempts to slap or punch me across the face just for speaking against them. Each time I fought back, I was always met with hate from people telling me "you don't ever hit a women even if it's self-defense" or "you were supposed to just take it." What these fools need to realize is that fighting isn't only about power. If you know the right places to hit a person, you can take them down easily. And I can assure you, getting hit in the eyes, nose, and/or mouth can be pretty painful.

Maybe I should have been more specific. Male rape victims receives little attention (unless the male victim is a boy raped by a man) compared to female rape victims much like how male breast cancer is usually overlooked. Yes we can get breast cancer. Yes it doesn't happen as common as women, but that doesn't mean it should be ignored,

At least take the time to read SOME of this http://paa2011.princeton.edu/papers/110484

Sorry for being able to form a sound rebuttal. I didn't realize that would make me into a smart ass intellect. From now on, I'll just agree with everything you say, so as not to damage what is obviously your fragile as glass ego. I'm not sure what you were trying to prove with that paper, unless you are under the delusion that I think males don't get raped.

Aegis wrote:

Sorry for being able to form a sound rebuttal. I didn't realize that would make me into a smart ass intellect. From now on, I'll just agree with everything you say, so as not to damage what is obviously your fragile as glass ego. I'm not sure what you were trying to prove with that paper, unless you are under the delusion that I think males don't get raped.

See there you go again. You saying that the reason the media has men as predators for the most part because females are "rarely" predators makes you sound ignorant. Disagreeing with me isn't a bad thing. The way you worded things was similar to how you were trying to talk about PC users and graphics whores in that other thread. If anyone has a big ego, It's you. You're only 14 yet you talk as if you've "learned it all". Both of us aren't even 20 yet so we still have plenty to learn about the world.

Nobudy wrote:

You're only 14 yet you talk as if you've "learned it all". Both of us aren't even 20 yet so we still have plenty to learn about the world.

I hardly think age matters. I've met 12-year-olds that are more mature than some people over their 20s.

Age has nothing to do with anything. Ever. What anyone says always stands on its own merit. As for women rarely being predators, I was speaking in relative terms. Compared to men, yes, women predators are far more rare. When you say predator, you could be talking about different crimes, such as assault, rape, murder, serial killing, etc. Each category will have its own female vs male ratio. There are many more female rapists than female serial killers, which are extremely rare. I've already said that the media doesn't only portray men as predators, but they do portray men more as predators because that's the reality of it. Take a university psychology course because this is psych 101 stuff.

Mass Distraction wrote:

Nobudy wrote:

You're only 14 yet you talk as if you've "learned it all". Both of us aren't even 20 yet so we still have plenty to learn about the world.

I hardly think age matters. I've met 12-year-olds that are more mature than some people over their 20s.

Whatever.

Ok, well firstly I want to say that I absolutely despise when people use the age card. Extra annoying when people use someone's age against them, so im with Aegis on that part.

Aegis: 1
Nobudy: 0

That said, I also think Nobudy could be on to something. Maybe the reason there is a misunderstanding or anyone jumping to conclusions, the way Aegis words the post may be at fault. Sooo...

Aegis: 1
Nobody: 1

So boys, we're all tied up now, so lets shake hands and let bygones be bygones.

Mass Distraction wrote:

Nobudy wrote:

You're only 14 yet you talk as if you've "learned it all". Both of us aren't even 20 yet so we still have plenty to learn about the world.

I hardly think age matters. I've met 12-year-olds that are more mature than some people over their 20s.

My mistake. I guess I should have said experience. In some cases, experience trumps raw talent.

Aegis wrote:

Age has nothing to do with anything. Ever. What anyone says always stands on its own merit. As for women rarely being predators, I was speaking in relative terms. Compared to men, yes, women predators are far more rare. When you say predator, you could be talking about different crimes, such as assault, rape, murder, serial killing, etc. Each category will have its own female vs male ratio. There are many more female rapists than female serial killers, which are extremely rare. I've already said that the media doesn't only portray men as predators, but they do portray men more as predators because that's the reality of it. Take a university psychology course because this is psych 101 stuff.

The thing is. Even though female rapists and murderers aren't as much as men, it doesn't mean that females assaulting other females and men should be played for laughs. Though to be fair, males assaulting females is played for laughs as well, but from what I've seen, it's not as much when the genders are reversed.

One movie my sisters once watched was "Medea's Family Reunion". A woman was in an abusive relationship. Though it was mostly emotional with a slap across the face. My sisters gasped and saw him as a monster. Once she does fight back at the end of the movie, she proceeds to scald her husband with hot Oatmeal and then repeatedly beat him with a frying pan. Que cheering from my sisters. What she did to him was much worse than what he did to her physically. I never understood why it was played for laughs yet a simple slap across the face was drama. Yet many people in my city still believe women to be fragile and incapable of hurting anyone.

@TehSpike: Bygones. I don't hold grudges. A wise man once said "We mustn't focus on what was rather act on what is."   But going back to my original post is that I'm wondering is anyone else feeling that the media has become more sexist against men as well as continuing against women (albeit less but still present)? I'm all for women wanting equality as well, but for them to only want to take the benefits and not the consequences either is something else.

You're cool in my book Nobody. That is a wise quote. I like those old quotes like that. I've found that most often those old sayings are true and exist and have stood the test of time for a reason. Because wise people have figured that stuff out over time through their experience.

Teh Spike wrote:

You're cool in my book Nobody. That is a wise quote. I like those old quotes like that. I've found that most often those old sayings are true and exist and have stood the test of time for a reason. Because wise people have figured that stuff out over time through their experience.

I've always thought that the wisest people were the one that went through the most tragedies.

Nobudy wrote:

Teh Spike wrote:

You're cool in my book Nobody. That is a wise quote. I like those old quotes like that. I've found that most often those old sayings are true and exist and have stood the test of time for a reason. Because wise people have figured that stuff out over time through their experience.

I've always thought that the wisest people were the one that went through the most tragedies.

Why do humans feed on tragedy?

Teh Spike wrote:

Nobudy wrote:

Teh Spike wrote:

You're cool in my book Nobody. That is a wise quote. I like those old quotes like that. I've found that most often those old sayings are true and exist and have stood the test of time for a reason. Because wise people have figured that stuff out over time through their experience.

I've always thought that the wisest people were the one that went through the most tragedies.

Why do humans feed on tragedy?

That's something I've always wondered. It might be something we'll never understand.

Nobudy wrote:

Teh Spike wrote:

Nobudy wrote:

Teh Spike wrote:

You're cool in my book Nobody. That is a wise quote. I like those old quotes like that. I've found that most often those old sayings are true and exist and have stood the test of time for a reason. Because wise people have figured that stuff out over time through their experience.

I've always thought that the wisest people were the one that went through the most tragedies.

Why do humans feed on tragedy?

That's something I've always wondered. It might be something we'll never understand.

And! If a mouse goes outside does that make it a rat?

Teh Spike wrote:

Nobudy wrote:

Teh Spike wrote:

Nobudy wrote:

Teh Spike wrote:

You're cool in my book Nobody. That is a wise quote. I like those old quotes like that. I've found that most often those old sayings are true and exist and have stood the test of time for a reason. Because wise people have figured that stuff out over time through their experience.

I've always thought that the wisest people were the one that went through the most tragedies.

Why do humans feed on tragedy?

That's something I've always wondered. It might be something we'll never understand.

And! If a mouse goes outside does that make it a rat?

Um....Uh.....yes      ?