RE6: Free DLC

@Mcghie

The Versus situation wasn't a big deal for you but it pissed a lot of people off; myself included. A lot of gamers are tired of the bullshit. Give me what I paid for, that's all I want.

I can't speak for anyone else but I gave capcom credit for releasing this content for free. However, the fact that they have to announce that on disc content will be released for free is where my gripe lies. Free on disc content should be the standard. It only appears that I'm singling out capcom because this is a RE forum but the gaming industry as a whole is the main target. Capcom is just one of the many offenders.

No offense but I'm a bit disappointed by your "we should be a little grateful" comment. By being grateful, you are taking away your power as a consumer. This is a business relationship. Capcom needs us more than we need them. As long as capcom provides us with great products, consumers will continue sending money their way. If Capcom doesn't meet our standards then we will take our money elsewhere. Capcom should be grateful that their fan base still continues to support them despite the constant nickel and diming.

You may think Capcom is fair but I disagree. This is why I said this discussion is pointless because none of us are going to change our perspectives. We are just going in circles.

What are the odds I'll finish this by October 27? After that, I'll need to renew my Xbox Live gold membership. I've still got 4/5 chapters to go for Chris, one for Leon and all of Jake's and Ada's too. Man, don't think I'll survive this zombie apocalypse.

Ok one question about DLC. Is the DLC put onto the disk or on the HDD of the console (Apparently none of my PC games have DLC so I'm still new to it).

White Rock wrote:

What are the odds I'll finish this by October 27? After that, I'll need to renew my Xbox Live gold membership. I've still got 4/5 chapters to go for Chris, one for Leon and all of Jake's and Ada's too. Man, don't think I'll survive this zombie apocalypse.

you can make it,start playing more
dont rush trough the game trough,enjoy every
bit of it

i will have to wait until the pc version comes out
and when i receive a copy i will spent night and day playing it

Lol. I'm now playing Jake and the bit on the chopper is hard. You need to shoot the missles before they reach you.

Nobudy wrote:

Ok one question about DLC. Is the DLC put onto the disk or on the HDD of the console (Apparently none of my PC games have DLC so I'm still new to it).

All that you download is going to your HDD. If it is something that has to do with stuff on disc, it will merely unlock it.

@Mcghie

No they need us MORE than we need them. I didn't know that Capcom received Gov funding. However, it's still a business that is fueled by revenue. If Capcom stop making video games, would our consoles become useless? Sure, I love RE games but it isn't the only franchise I'm invested in. If Capcom woke up one day and said "since re6 received such bad reviews, we're going to end it here and put our efforts somewhere else", I would go off in a drunken rage for about 10 mins.......and then move on with my life. If the entire gaming community said "CrapCom Suxxx, COD FTW" and vowed to no longer buy capcom products, capcom will go out of business. It's not a equal partnership. Don't disempower yourself with this "grateful" attitude.

You said it's impossible to please everyone and I agree. I can't speak for everyone but the only thing I want is what I paid for. My demands aren't complex or impractical. I just want all the content the game was intended to have. The key word is INTENDED. Did the developers at Capcom really intend for re6 mercs to have only 3 maps? Or did the suits at capcom made the order to remove content from the game only to resell it as dlc later? Am I bitching because I want a full game? Should I just accept things like this?


"It's this kind of consumer attitude that actually decreased the quality in game production as people tend to trend and don't do there own thing or form there on opinion, so the whole gaming industry is a FPS heavy based melting pot and that is because we are constantly moaning about games not being like other games"

You're way off the mark. The gaming industry is a FPS melting pot because COD,Battlefield and Halo are 3 of the most successful games in this generation. In an attempt to piggyback off the success of those 3 games, other game companies create games that are similar in gameplay. Take RE for example: look how many survival horror games that were released because of the success of RE. What the hell is survival horror anyway? How is it even a legit genre? Those games were blatantly "inspired" by RE.

I don't think I've ever heard someone say "damn I wished (insert non fps game) was more like COD".

Another thing: gamer and consumer aren't the same thing....

Gamer cares about game related content
Consumer cares about worth of the product

Not all gamers are consumers. I said this because in that comment of yours that I quoted, you blamed consumers. I never said anything negative about the gameplay aspects of RE6. Don't group me together with gamers.

Known_Hero wrote:

Another thing: gamer and consumer aren't the same thing....

From Wikipedia: A consumer is a person or group of people that are the final users of products and or services generated within a social system.

So, if you buy and use something, you are a consumer by default.

Mass Distraction wrote:

Propably .

Mass, is that a Typo?

It's kinda stupid for them to have cool stuff on the disc already, that you have to additionally pay for, but that's what Capcom's all about I guess.

I do like how their most recent projects seem to take the stuff we've been saying over the years into consideration...

Kinda makes me thing someone(Like Shinji Mikami or whoever) might even take a gander at a Forum such as this for ideas about what they should do, instead of only listening to the BS you hear from Mainstream Gamers.

Spike991 wrote:

Kinda makes me thing someone(Like Shinji Mikami or whoever) might even take a gander at a Forum such as this for ideas about what they should do, instead of only listening to the BS you hear from Mainstream Gamers.

Maybe he can read that putting faulty codes on discs is wrong.

RaviorStygian wrote:

Spike991 wrote:

Kinda makes me thing someone(Like Shinji Mikami or whoever) might even take a gander at a Forum such as this for ideas about what they should do, instead of only listening to the BS you hear from Mainstream Gamers.

Maybe he can read that putting faulty codes on discs is wrong.

You just aren't gonna get over that are you? lol

Anybody know what patch 1.02 does?

Spike991 wrote:

It's kinda stupid for them to have cool stuff on the disc already, that you have to additionally pay for, but that's what Capcom's all about I guess.

If that was to the discussion on RE DLC... No, that's not the case at all. The on disc stuff is free.

Nobudy wrote:

Anybody know what patch 1.02 does?

The most recent one? Not much, really. Propably just some minor tweaking.

[i]@Known_hero
I honestly can't be bothered answering back to all that.
It seems I need to keep repeating myself and your not getting my true point of view, so on that note I'm just leaving it, a main part of my studies includes that of the game industry so I have a lot of knowledge on the matter and on business operations.
If you can't take my word for it then that's fine with me, I was telling you how it is, not how it seems.
Sometimes you just need to come at things with a open mind rather than going head over heels on things.

To answer a few of your previous questions, yes game companies receive government funding, just like every other major business that will put revue into the country.
In the UK the game's industry make over 50 million a year in revue for the country, now if that's the UK then think of how much money will be generated in other countries where the gaming market is stronger, i.e Japan.

Survival horror is a genre and was going on way before RE, it was actually after the first Alone in Dark that genre was labelled.
Then sweet home came along and Resident Evil based itself from that.

What do you mean you haven't heard anyone saying that they would like a game being like COD ?
Capcom even stated in early interviews that they where trying to cater for the COD community.
That's straight from the horses mouth.


Right lastly please, PLEASE read this properly and take this in because I have said it countless time and yet you still seem to be basing your arguiment off of it.
Resident evil DID give you what you paid, what you got was what's on the disk so why are you still up in arms about that part.
DLC and other content was not put into the game because it was an after thought or developed AFTER the release of the game, they can't add content to the game that they never produced when the game was in production now can they ?

Simple's, DLC is there because it's done after the game, NOT in the game, AFTER the game.

Now end it right there because it's like pulling teeth trying to get that point across and no matter how many times I say it people seem to always come back to that.

Reply back if you wish but I'v dropped out of this debate.
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More story related DLC is OK by me. However, I'm not really fussy about the non canon sub-games and all that kind of stuff. I've still not even got around to trying the versus mode in RE5. Agent Hunt Mode sounds cool, though, cos you can just go and slay some BSAA guys.

Mcghie wrote:

[i]@Known_hero
I honestly can't be bothered answering back to all that.
It seems I need to keep repeating myself and your not getting my true point of view, so on that note I'm just leaving it, a main part of my studies includes that of the game industry so I have a lot of knowledge on the matter and on business operations.
If you can't take my word for it then that's fine with me, I was telling you how it is, not how it seems.
Sometimes you just need to come at things with a open mind rather than going head over heels on things.

To answer a few of your previous questions, yes game companies receive government funding, just like every other major business that will put revue into the country.
In the UK the game's industry make over 50 million a year in revue for the country, now if that's the UK then think of how much money will be generated in other countries where the gaming market is stronger, i.e Japan.

Survival horror is a genre and was going on way before RE, it was actually after the first Alone in Dark that genre was labelled.
Then sweet home came along and Resident Evil based itself from that.

What do you mean you haven't heard anyone saying that they would like a game being like COD ?
Capcom even stated in early interviews that they where trying to cater for the COD community.
That's straight from the horses mouth.


Right lastly please, PLEASE read this properly and take this in because I have said it countless time and yet you still seem to be basing your arguiment off of it.
Resident evil DID give you what you paid, what you got was what's on the disk so why are you still up in arms about that part.
DLC and other content was not put into the game because it was an after thought or developed AFTER the release of the game, they can't add content to the game that they never produced when the game was in production now can they ?

Simple's, DLC is there because it's done after the game, NOT in the game, AFTER the game.

Now end it right there because it's like pulling teeth trying to get that point across and no matter how many times I say it people seem to always come back to that.

Reply back if you wish but I'v dropped out of this debate.
[i]

Ladies, ladies. Can't we all just get along?

About the DLC, maybe I'll get it. I do need to get Live again, at the very least, so that I can change my username back to something with my name in it, Spike. Since the last time I had Live, which was only very briefly mind you, it made me change my name, so it's like Crabbynose555 or some shit and I hate it. I actually tried really hard to come up with something that had Spike in it, like SeniorSpike, HerrSpike, MonsieurSpike, etc, and believe it or not, it wouldn't take. That's some bullshit, cuz I know for a fact that nobody is using the names I tried. So I'm CrabbyNose in the meantime... T^T

Try SpikeTheDragon.

Ada's disposable partner has been revealed! Just as someone already suggested, it's that BSAA dude from Mercenaries.

Watch out guys. We've got an expendable over here.

Mass Distraction wrote:

Ada's disposable partner has been revealed! Just as someone already suggested, it's that BSAA dude from Mercenaries.

Did I call it? Or did I call it. I called the shit out of that.

My question is if the co-op partner optional? What if I just want to do single player Ada?

What's the BSAA guy called?

And yes, he's optional.