What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?

Haha. I would have much rather spent time with Ashley than Angela. But they're both annoying.

NiteKrawler wrote:

Haha. I would have much rather spent time with Ashley than Angela. But they're both annoying.

When it comes to things cannon to Resident Evil, I'll always see Ashley more cannon than Angela. Yeah if it comes to better or worse, I'd choose Ashley. I cannot tell you how weird that sounds...

if you ask me i'd like ashley better, i don't like angela, she's like sheva feeling very cannon in the story... i love ashley actually

Mercy wrote:

Am I going to have to rant about two Sheva's? No... No. All I have to say is that everyone in that she just looked like a cheap porn star in that movie.

I hated Leon's mo-cap, he looked so stiff, in Resident Evil 4 he always looked aware. In Degeneration, he looked really tired...

And Leon wouldn't have given a lecture about shooting zombies in the head, he would just say: "shoot em in the head." The writers really don't know Leon, the mo-cap doesn't know Leon, I'm sure they were all just trying to ride the wave Resident Evil 4 made. Though I did like the "bloopers" with the voice actors complaining about their wage or Leon being too scared to go separate ways with Angela.

But wait, that brings something else up. Ashley asked Leon if they could do "overtime" *wink wink* and he refused and said that Ada is "a part of me I can't let go." ... Except if there's Angela? Really? Did the writers like miss that? Did they even play Resident Evil 2 & 4? Do they know who Ada is?

I'm glad you mentioned Leon's animations and mocap for Degeneration. It looked horrible. Obviously the difference in graphics, between RE4 & Degeneration are well, obvious, but Leon looked way better in RE4. In a totally heterosexual way.

I mean....he just looked like a real person. The movement was spot on. The voice, perfect.

Degeneration, yes, stiff. He lacked personality. It's like Hunnigan or somebody gave him some ridilin or whatever right before he was sent out.

Leon is becoming somewhat of a joke character like barry

I honestly loved leon in RE 2

He was kind of innocent, he wanted to help people, and would go to great lengths to do it.

It seemed kind of strange that he went from being this all loving goody good guy. To this slow talking emotionless bad ass.
I know like Raccoon city will change a man, so I am not all "Bring back the nice guy act!" I like leon as a character. I think he is well developed and he has such a mysterious way about him.

The Joker wrote:

I honestly loved leon in RE 2

He was kind of innocent, he wanted to help people, and would go to great lengths to do it.

It seemed kind of strange that he went from being this all loving goody good guy. To this slow talking emotionless bad ass.
I know like Raccoon city will change a man, so I am not all "Bring back the nice guy act!" I like leon as a character. I think he is well developed and he has such a mysterious way about him.

He wasn't the slow talking type guy until Degeneration. He was cool, calm and collected in RE4. Sarcastic when the situation called for it, or didn't.

Definately a bit more mature and reserved than before.

Even in RE 4 he still seemed a bit of a slow talker. He was a little less like the RE 2 Leon but that can be seen as a good thing sometimes. Sometimes I miss his little one liners, but I would not want to sit through an entire game of it haha.

But on the case of Sheva. She is Ok but not my favorite Sidekick

I really disliked the Alternate costumes, Sheva looked like Rihana and Chris just looked retarted (Zebra stripes is just not his thing). I think it is kind of funny that Chris went from being a moderately build athlete, to Buff as hell status. He makes Arnold Schwarzenegger look like a 4th grader. Sheva seemed to be a likable character, but time wore thin on me when it came to her. There is only so much I can take of a new character. Much like with Steve from Code Veronica (X) He was extremely annoying for the first half of the game, but he seemed to get a little less annoying after awhile. It was just the opposite with Sheva. Her constant screaming just made me grit my teeth. I know the AI that you play with is going to start dying eventually, My Sheva died constantly. Ever two minutes I would hear "CHRIS!!!!!" or "HELP ME!!!!!" and the screen would get all red and I had to revive her by punching her in the chest?...I never really got what Chris did to revive her. While Fighting wesker (Which was my least favorite part...I am a Wekser fanboy) Sheva was constantly telling me what to do. I remember one time I got pissed at stated talking back to her.

Sheva: Chris get him now!!!

Me: Shut up you dumb bitch I am like 500 feet away from him, how do I hit him from here!? I can't even see him!


Sheva: Chris what are you doing!?

Me: Trying to get the

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over there!!! Jesus christ You'd think I would be joggin a bit faster at a time like this!

Sheva: Chris!!!!

Me: Are you shitting me!? You are dying again!?....Etc

You miss Leon's one liners? Like from RE2?

What about, "Hasta Luego" as he shot the gasoline around Mendez' feet.

He still used his one liners in RE4. Also, the 6 year difference between Raccoon and his mission in Europe, with the implied training that comes along with that job, and all the stuff we know he went through between makes his character development seem extremely realistic, and well done.

Sheva was annoying.

I am not saying that I hate new leon. I am just saying I enjoyed him in the Old days. I'm a bit Nostalgic I suppose.
Idk, in RE 4 it seemed like he was trying to be a bad ass constantly (Which he did a great job off regardless)

In RE 2 he was genuinely scared sometimes, and he didn't always know what to do. He just was a little easier to relate to. Don't get me wrong I love his Badassery in RE 4, but RE 4 just happens to not be my favorite game.

It was the first of it's kind and I give it tremendous credit for that. It was the first Resident evil to feature a free camera instead of a Fixed angles. It was the first to have the Laser pointer aim, instead of the Auto aim, that Some of the earlier ones had.

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I understand things have to change with stories. So I am not complaining about it.

The Joker wrote:

I am not saying that I hate new leon. I am just saying I enjoyed him in the Old days. I'm a bit Nostalgic I suppose.
Idk, in RE 4 it seemed like he was trying to be a bad ass constantly (Which he did a great job off regardless)

In RE 2 he was genuinely scared sometimes, and he didn't always know what to do. He just was a little easier to relate to. Don't get me wrong I love his Badassery in RE 4, but RE 4 just happens to not be my favorite game.

It was the first of it's kind and I give it tremendous credit for that. It was the first Resident evil to feature a free camera instead of a Fixed angles. It was the first to have the Laser pointer aim, instead of the Auto aim, that Some of the earlier ones had.

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I understand things have to change with stories. So I am not complaining about it.

I've never considered Leon a "badass". Never though of him like that. I like how not in control he was in RE2, and how with all of his experience, he tried to take more control of the situation, tried to know what to do. Very admirable and cool as a character, especially since we've seen the development.

Leon was great in RE2, and you seem to appreciate him in RE4 too. If you prefer RE2 Leon, there's nothing wrong with that, I was just getting a bit of a, "I don't like RE4 or Leon from RE4" vibe.

I think RE4 should get credit for stuff, and not as much for other things. It's a great game, and a great RE game, Period.

You seem to look at RE4 as being something totally different, not bad, but different. Is that right?

RE4 isn't that different. I mean first off, the controls are exactly the same. Aim with R, shoot with A, Z for map(this is the GC control set by the way), and all the same buttons. Obviously the knife and reload buttons are there too.

Anyway, the camera, not a fixed camera angle, that's fine, a little different, but not too different. I mean, look at the differences with other things. CVX not using Pre-rendered environments, the Survivor series going 1st Person(and Dead Aim looking pretty similar to RE4 in ways).

I don't think it's a big difference, it's a difference, but not a huge one, to be able to aim. I mean, there's a line, where keeping something the same is preferable, as far as a series goes, and on the other side, changing a bit. Having the ability to aim is a good one.

The Survivor series also utilized aiming, Dead Aim even going as far as allowing the GunCon.

If Survivor isn't doing it for you though, CVX also utilized duel wielding, and more importantly, FPS sniper mode(when you get Alfred's sniper, like for the Nosferatu fight).

I mean, I could go on. Most of the things people complain about, although you seem to have a more open mind about RE4, aren't brand new, spontaneous, trying to change everything, features. Most have developed really well since even the earlest games, that usually get put on a cloud, where nothing will ever be as good as that. Features from RE3, CVX, some of the side story games, etc.

Ironically Resident Evil 4 was the first Resident evil game I beat.

I do have an open mind about it. I like some things, and dislike some as well. Just as with the others. Somethings In Resident evil 2 I did not like, and some I did.

As far as storyline goes. Resident evil 4 is a wonderful addition yes! I just wish to see more T-virus some day. I would love to see an Over the shoulder style like RE 4-5 but with the old foes. Hunters, Old Zombies, Tyrants...etc

RE 4 wasn't the first RE game I played, so I was familiar with the Story of RE, and the frightening gameplay.

With Resident evil 4 and 5 it is a bit more action paced, than the others, I won't lie I screamed at some points in RE 4, but Resident evil 5 was just not scary. It was just action. Which I am ok with. I can tell Capcom is expanding it's territory, testing out different waters.

I just did not get that Anticipating Doom feeling I got when playing RE 2 or RE 1,0,3, Code veronica

I liked the controls so I was not complaining about them.

I remember I had nightmares for weeks when I first saw The zombies from Resident evil. Even back then in the Dark video game ages, I thought the graphics were just so brutal. I do not care about graphics as much as some "Hard core Gamers" do.

I think that graphics should only add to the game, not make it. But lets not get into that debate, I think I have de-railed this thread enough

The Joker wrote:

But lets not get into that debate, I think I have de-railed this thread enough

Don't worry, I don't mind, as I made this thread. Everything gets a little off topic eventually, but I think this is still at least indirectly on topic.

Yes, there are definately things I like, and dislike about any RE game. My point being that some people tend to sit there and say, "RE4 is an action game...not scary..", etc, and when referring to RE1, RE2, RE3, CVX, etc, it's just complete postive everything.

That's annoying, and so not true.

RE4's story was alright, nothing too special, but not bad by any means. Oh, and I forgot to mention something. In RE3, The Nemesis Parasite was used to create one of the most familiar and popular enemies in RE, Nemesis. You can also see tons of similarities between Nemesis & Las Plagas infectees, ganados & majini. Like the intelligence factor for one.

RE4 allowed us to, and rightfully so, handle enemies better. Handle BOWs better, like an experienced person might. And I like to think that I was pretty experienced going into RE4, so I'd like to be able to take out an enemy without having to run back, aim(locking on), shoot a few times, run further back, aim, shoot. I mean aiming is great.

That said, they really shouldn't reward you for killing enemies, dropping ammo, health, etc. I think that when anyone plays a game, such as RE, you go into it feeling an obligations to kill everything, and you learn pretty quick that you can't do that. RE4, you are rewarded, which is not the right way to do that. I think LIN was pretty good.

And I completely agree, I would love to see OTS, but with zombies, and not just zombies, but V-Acts(Crimson Heads), and Hunters, and most importantly, Tyrants. Or just one Tyrant...

I liked in the REmake, when the Tyrant picked you up, on the helipad fight, you could use a self defense item, and if you were using Chris' flash grenades, it was pretty satisfying.

Also, they should bring self defense items back.

Anyway, one thing that cannot be changed is the age in which RE was played. I mean, some people say RE4 isn't scary, obviously they are full of it. As they also talk about RE1 like they were pissing their pants. I didn't find any RE game that scary, but RE4 had it moments just like RE1, RE2, RE3, and maybe one part in CVX(the part where that spider pops out in the hall with Chris, in the training facility).

But anyway, if you play RE nowadays, surely you have a better idea of what to expect, and probably won't get scared as easy or at all. It's not fair to judge RE4 like that.

RE5 though, isn't scary. There are maybe small parts. Mostly just the intense, too many enemies things, where an executioner or Reaper will put you on the edge of your seat. Not to mention having Sheva with you took away tons of horror possibilities. Hopefully they learned that having lots of intense action parts, then trying to go to scary, dark environments doesn't work. You can't change the mood and atmosphere that much and expect the desired results.

I agree. I am not glorifying the Old Resident evils over the newer ones. As I said There were some games that did not appeal to me as much. The Remake was a masterpiece in my opinion. I beat it 4 times. twice on normal (Chris and Jill) and twice on Hard (Chris and Jill)

The Tyrant is my favorite. I love the tyrant. He (Or "it") was so terrifying. There was nothing to sympathize with it. It was just a killer, there was no humanity left in it. There was no "Ohhh poor thing, he just got infected." No I was like "Dayumm that bastard is huge. He is gonna kill meee!!!!" I was so scared when I first met the Regenorators from RE 4 I am not joking when I say. I turned the tv off and just said "F**** it....That's too scary" I am not going to hold one game above the others. There are literally hundreds of parts that scared me in 4, some more so than any other. Like when I first meet with the Wolves. I still don't like doing that part.

The thing I liked about RE 4 was that you were not always guaranteed a safe way out. Unlike some games where there was an easy way to get out of a situation RE 4 took that away and made you face things and finish them, instead of just leave it behind.

A safe way to get out of a situation was getting to a door in some of the earlier RE games. Sometimes it could be pretty intense trying to get there, for the sake of not dying and having to restart to the last save you made, which was forever ago...

I think with RE4, you should have the option of killing everything, just like you do any other, but shouldn't be rewarded so that you can do it all the way through. I had parts in RE4 where I was just like, "Fuck This" and went through the door, rather than facing tons of enemies, that's what we should be doing. Not killing in order to get rid of everyone, or get the enemy that has a key to move on, etc.

I love the Tyrants too, all of them. The Proto Tyrant from RE0, T-002(REmake, which is a masterpiece by the way), Mr. X(and all T-103's), T-078(CVX), Thanatos(Outbreak), T-0400tp(File#2), and all others.

I would love to fight them, in a cool interactive way. RE4 really did a great job with boss fights, and fighting something like Mr.X would be so much fun, it really would.

I think RER is supposed to have a Tyrant of some sort in there...

Also, I thought RE5 was originally going to have zombies, from the very first trailer that ever came out, you couldn't tell what they were or who the main character was, or where the game took place.

https://youtu.be/dvxe0tDL9g8

Well there's the link to it, since I can't seem to embed it......

What I meant by no safe way out, was you were not always given scenarios where the enemy was coming from just infront of you, or just behind you, and sometimes you did not even want to go through a door, because you were afraid of what was on he other side. With RE 4 you had enemies coming from all sides, a lot of the time. And some of the enemies had to be killed in a time limit which was very strenous on a casual gamer (Which I was at the time)

The Joker wrote:

What I meant by no safe way out, was you were not always given scenarios where the enemy was coming from just infront of you, or just behind you, and sometimes you did not even want to go through a door, because you were afraid of what was on he other side. With RE 4 you had enemies coming from all sides, a lot of the time. And some of the enemies had to be killed in a time limit which was very strenous on a casual gamer (Which I was at the time)

One thing that needs to be there, not so much for ordinary zombies, but we see it a lot with the sub boss characters, Dr. Salvador, Reapers, Regenerators, etc, is how they aren't able to be dispatched quickly, and will kill you pretty quickly.

They also have those scary traits, a chainsaw, an insta-kill move as well as a weird gas that comes out of them, or weird breathing and stretchy limbs.

I'm sure if the basic zombies were crimson heads, just the fast, 28 Days Later variety, it's going to be extremely cool, and fun, and scary.

I really don't understand at all, why Capcom hasn't done that yet. I mean honestly...Crimson's are the coolest, scariest version of the zombie, and to go at them OTS, it just seems like so much fun. Atlhough I thought the same thing about cooperative gameplay when I was playing RE4....look how that turned out.

With the Re-make I seriously Screamed like a girl when I came across my first Crimson head. I mean he just flew at me and slashed me to death (I was in caution) I was like

"HOLY SHIT!! MOTHER OF GOD FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!" I was so scared I was so afraid to Re-enter rooms that I had killed zombies in. Crimson heads are definitely One of the best additions ever.

The Joker wrote:

With the Re-make I seriously Screamed like a girl when I came across my first Crimson head. I mean he just flew at me and slashed me to death (I was in caution) I was like

"HOLY SHIT!! MOTHER OF GOD FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!" I was so scared I was so afraid to Re-enter rooms that I had killed zombies in. Crimson heads are definitely One of the best additions ever.

If not just because I didn't want to deal with them, I found myself using the kerosene and lighter to rid of them. Of course the shotgun was nice, to simply blow their head off.

I usually ended up dealing with them because I got lazy with the Kerosene -_-;;

The Joker wrote:

I usually ended up dealing with them because I got lazy with the Kerosene -_-;;

And it was a pain either having to lug that around with the lighter, as Jill, and or just the kerosene with Chris, as he only had 6 spaces.

That was part of it too. I did not feel like taking up the unnecessary space that was required. I figured I would deal with them anyway. No matter how Pantshittingly terrifying they were

Just jumping in the conversation but I wonder if ORC is going to have crimsons in any way? Or even a few running zombies. At least in that game we will be able to have the T-virus, tyrants (Mr. X), zombies and the original BOWs again. All with the over the shoulder camera.

Operation Raccoon city?

I honestly still have not heard of this yet


I am Ok with the OTS Camera, but the Fixed angles kind of made things fun for me. It was like i was watching it through Security cameras (Like wekser )

I liked Crimson Heads, as I said before. I would like to see them come back.

The Joker wrote:

Operation Raccoon city?

I honestly still have not heard of this yet

Check this thread for more info and run through the pages to find the trailers and other videos.
http://www.residentevilforums.net/t2502-resident-evil-operation-raccoon-city-announced