Posts : 418 Join date : 2011-07-11 Location : In the lab
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:05 am
Sargent D wrote:
I don't think when they were making this game back in 1995 that they were really thinking about a perfect canon story line because they didn't know if the game was going to be big or not.
I agree with this. RE1 was kind of a "What the hell" kind of game; I don't think that they were anticipating it becoming such a massive franchise.
NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:42 pm
Face it. We have never and may never see the true canon story of some of these games.
Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:55 pm
Hey Nite, didn't you write a thread asking about our opinions on the canon of RE1? I can't seem to find it anywhere anymore.
NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:07 pm
I might have. I remember something like that.
Spike991 User BANNED
Posts : 9885 Join date : 2008-12-08
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:37 pm
If you cant dig it up you could just make a new one.
ChickenHeart Umbrella Scientist
BrokenWindows Posts : 471 Join date : 2010-08-23 Location : The Burgh
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:41 am
chocotricks wrote:
We could always say fuck it And say Lisa knocked Barry off the ledge and thats why you dont see him no more and thats truly canon.
But Barry appears at the end of RE3 flying the helicopter
Trichos RPD Officer
Posts : 311 Join date : 2012-01-07 Age : 35 Location : Germany
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:49 pm
NiteKrawler wrote:
Face it. We have never and may never see the true canon story of some of these games.
Maybe it's a mistake in the first place to think the canon is represented by the games. It's a theoretical canon, partially represented by the games which will deviate from it whenever the respective gameplay requires it.
I think the big plot holes are parts of the earlier games, though, since gamers actually demanding a thing such as canon and timeline consitency is a relatively new phenomenon. You can see that very well with Zelda, one of the obligatory questions for each new part now being: "Where in the timeline does it fit, is this the same Link/Zelda as in _________?" And with RE becoming more professionalized and exploited as a brand, they seem to be more calculating and on guard about plot.
Last edited by Trichos on Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:52 am; edited 1 time in total
Spike991 User BANNED
Posts : 9885 Join date : 2008-12-08
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:34 pm
Yeah, like RE's 1 & 2. I kinda wish they didn't have things like choosing different characters, and all kinds of different, alternate paths and endings. It just makes things confusing.
Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:51 am
Screw confusing, it made a hell of an interesting game with way more replayability than just having one straight storyline.
I'm not complaining with games like Silent Hill and they have a crap ton of endings each time.
Trichos RPD Officer
Posts : 311 Join date : 2012-01-07 Age : 35 Location : Germany
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:09 am
I agree with Mass. The most "confusing" of them all in terms of canon, RE2, has really been a masterpiece. I would have missed the "Goodbye, Leon" scene and theme greatness just because Leon A would have been dismissed as "not canonable". As long as, say, CAPCOM issues a press statement clarifying what the canon for each game is, or as long as it becomes obvious (or at least reasonably probable) from the succession of games which scenarios are/must be canon, I can live with mutually contradictory storylines.
Just imagine Assignment Ada not being a mere minigame, but a proper seperate storyline like in RE2, with actions and decisions of one character bearing consequences for the other one's story. I think that would have added (if not "Ada'd", ba-dum-tsss) to the game's overall quality.
Spike991 User BANNED
Posts : 9885 Join date : 2008-12-08
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:07 pm
I didn't mean that I find it confusing now, I mean once you know, like I do, then it isn't so much of a problem, but it was something that made it confusing at one point.
If there was any problem I had with it now, it'd be that we don't get a canon visual scene of how it went down.
I'd like to see Brad, Chris, Jill, Becca & Barry all in the same chopper at the same time at the end of the mansion incident....
Trichos RPD Officer
Posts : 311 Join date : 2012-01-07 Age : 35 Location : Germany
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:41 am
Spike991 wrote:
I'd like to see Brad, Chris, Jill, Becca & Barry all in the same chopper at the same time at the end of the mansion incident....
Granted, that annoys me too. Unlike RE2 with its different scenarios and consequently different endings, I really can't see any necessity to leave either Barry or both him and Rebecca behind. To have them knocked down by T-002 (so the fight isn't "too crowded") or have them arrive late at the helicopter platform after preparing mashed tyrant would have been perfectly possible.
Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
Subject: Re: Jills scenario is Canon Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:50 am
That is why it would be so amazing to have an official canon movie version of the first game.
Well, at least in the novel they all board the copter at the end.