Jills scenario is Canon

I'm a die hard RE fan and will ALWAYS consider Jill's good scenario in RE1 as Canon.

Rebecca never made it to the Spencer Mansion. Without Billy she was too weak and tired after battling Marcus. She got killed by an overwhelming field of cerebus on her way to the mansion (hence why she hasn't appeared in later games)

Barry retired because he was old and was too scared someone would manipulate him like wesker did and put his family in jeopardy.

Jill went on to star in RE3 until she was reunited with her partner in an odd way (RE5)

Chris was mad, frustrated and eternally hurt by how Wesker locked him up in a cell while his team suffered. His frustration to how Wesker was always a "better leader" than him built up until he proved he was a better marksman in RE5.

Chris realises in RE: code veronica that Wesker is only physically stronger than him due to powers a virus has provided him with.

Chris was so hurt by Jill dying because he loved her was fueled to go through the drama in RE5 just to exact some revenge on the guy who was always his superior....

*Richard dies trying to help Jill kill the yawn and never made it to the outside facility to help Chris* (there were more than one shield keys...Ricard was lucky enough to find one in the painting room before Jill got there)

*Enrico after being haunted by the RE0 events entered the mansion area from the back...he made it to the underground levels through the back way that Lisa Trevor created....he never bumped into Jilll by chance until Barry shot him dead for knowing too much information that would out wesker and his family at risk*

*Enrico was smart and knew Wesker was a traitor because they got into an argument when Enrico killed a Hunter while the two were working together to make it to the underground facility while Jill fought off the gigantic spider*

How can you say Rebecca is dead when her official status is "alive"? They even considered putting her in a new canon CG movie. It would be a horrible idea to just kill off a main protagonist off screen.

And wasn't it Wesker who shot Enrico?

I still think there is no canon scenario. The canon version is a mix of both.

Mass Distraction wrote:

The canon version is a mix of both.

But if someone wanted to do a canon playthrough like I plan to do someday, I think just playing Chris' story would be good enough.

By the way, is there confirmation that Rebecca won't be showing up in Damnation?

I don't think when they were making this game back in 1995 that they were really thinking about a perfect canon story line because they didn't know if the game was going to be big or not.

If that is what you want to believe is fine for me.... but to clarify some things:

TeRoR KiD wrote:

Jill went on to star in RE3 until she was reunited with her partner in an odd way (RE5)

What about the Russian facility and Lost in Nightmares?

TeRoR KiD wrote:

Chris was mad, frustrated and eternally hurt by how Wesker locked him up in a cell while his team suffered. His frustration to how Wesker was always a "better leader" than him built up until he proved he was a better marksman in RE5.

Why does Wesker hates Chris then?

TeRoR KiD wrote:

*Enrico after being haunted by the RE0 events entered the mansion area from the back...he made it to the underground levels through the back way that Lisa Trevor created....he never bumped into Jilll by chance until Barry shot him dead for knowing too much information that would out wesker and his family at risk*

Wesker kills Enrinco in both scenarios....specially in Jill's, since you can see his feet in REmake while gets to him..

if you watch Wesker's Report you can see that almost everything you said is wrong, BUT as I said earlier it is fine for me if you want to believe that.

That's why you think Jill's scenario is canon. When you have something that proves it, let me know.

PAULSAMSON wrote:

TeRoR KiD wrote:

Jill went on to star in RE3 until she was reunited with her partner in an odd way (RE5)

What about the Russian facility and Lost in Nightmares?

...and Revelations.

Hey, at least this isn't as bad as the Zelda timeline.

Sargent D wrote:

Hey, at least this isn't as bad as the Zelda timeline.

Apparently, Ocarina of Time is a prequel.

I believe there is a consistent timeline. Really if you get deep enough into it it actually does work.

You can especially tell with the 3D games. For example, Wind Waker and Majora's Mask obviously take place after Ocarina of Time, just in different dimensions.

Also, with the topic of the two playthroughs, I definitely believe Chris' playthrough is more canon. Not entirely, Jill's still happens, but of the two Chris' fits better with the plot.

Mass Distraction wrote:

How can you say Rebecca is dead when her official status is "alive"? They even considered putting her in a new canon CG movie. It would be a horrible idea to just kill off a main protagonist off screen.

And wasn't it Wesker who shot Enrico?

I still think there is no canon scenario. The canon version is a mix of both.

Yup, thats pretty much common sense if you are worth anything as an RE fan.

We could always say fuck it And say Lisa knocked Barry off the ledge and thats why you dont see him no more and thats truly canon. ALSO WHERE DID THAT NEW PICTURE COME FROM ITS AMAZING. Can someone list everyone from left to right Cause theres like 2 people im not sure who they are.

chocotricks wrote:

We could always say fuck it And say Lisa knocked Barry off the ledge and thats why you dont see him no more and thats truly canon. ALSO WHERE DID THAT NEW PICTURE COME FROM ITS AMAZING. Can someone list everyone from left to right Cause theres like 2 people im not sure who they are.

Sheva Alomar, Carlos Oliveira, Steve Burnside, Jill Valentine, Chris Redfield, Claire Redfield, Albert Wesker, Leon "No S" Kennedy, HUNK, Ada Wong, Rebecca Chambers <3, Barry Burton, and Billy Coen.

@OP: You can think that, but it is wrong.

chocotricks wrote:

We could always say fuck it And say Lisa knocked Barry off the ledge and thats why you dont see him no more and thats truly canon. ALSO WHERE DID THAT NEW PICTURE COME FROM ITS AMAZING. Can someone list everyone from left to right Cause theres like 2 people im not sure who they are.

Thanks.

and its a crime that jill doesnt really get any pic at all....

I saw that video before Mass, I love the AVGN.

This is just my crazy theory and what makes the most sense to me. There is always going to be a few holes in any canon plot that people can conjure up.

It was a shame to write off Rebecca in my version of the canon storyline but I see Barry as being the logical choice to feature heavily in RE1.

Actually, your point about Rebecca being killed on the way to the Spencer Mansion is actually decent. Doesn't anybody think that it's a little weird how we haven't seen her after RE1?

Also, the banner goes;

Sheva, Carlos, Steve, Jill, Chris, Claire, Wesker, Leon, HUNK, Ada, Rebecca, Barry and Billy.

If Rebecca shows up in Damnation that argument won't make sense. Besides, all of the documentation says that she did survive.

About the banner, I actually thought Jill was Manuella at first.

RaviorStygian wrote:

If Rebecca shows up in Damnation that argument won't make sense. Besides, all of the documentation says that she did survive.

About the banner, I actually thought Jill was Manuella at first.

The keyword is 'If'. If Rebecca is alive, then Capcom should make a game that tells us what she did after RE1, IF she lived. I seem to recall that in City of the Dead's (RE2 Book) epilogue, Rebecca was escaping the city with two people.

The Knife wrote:

RaviorStygian wrote:

If Rebecca shows up in Damnation that argument won't make sense. Besides, all of the documentation says that she did survive.

About the banner, I actually thought Jill was Manuella at first.

The keyword is 'If'. If Rebecca is alive, then Capcom should make a game that tells us what she did after RE1, IF she lived. I seem to recall that in City of the Dead's (RE2 Book) epilogue, Rebecca was escaping the city with two people.

RE2 EX files, Rebecca wrote them after the Spencer Mansion....

The Knife wrote:

Doesn't anybody think that it's a little weird how we haven't seen her after RE1?

If they have been thinking of using her character it means she's still with the living. Besides, that could be said for pretty much any character we haven't seen after a certain game. I don't see why Capcom would lie to us about her being alive, I mean she's a damn video game character. There's really no point in hiding a death that would be fiction anyway.

Again, she's alive until Capcom states otherwise.

PAULSAMSON wrote:

The Knife wrote:

RaviorStygian wrote:

If Rebecca shows up in Damnation that argument won't make sense. Besides, all of the documentation says that she did survive.

About the banner, I actually thought Jill was Manuella at first.

The keyword is 'If'. If Rebecca is alive, then Capcom should make a game that tells us what she did after RE1, IF she lived. I seem to recall that in City of the Dead's (RE2 Book) epilogue, Rebecca was escaping the city with two people.

RE2 EX files, Rebecca wrote them after the Spencer Mansion....

isnt that only in the 64 version?

is there a reason they were only included in it...

Spike991 wrote:

PAULSAMSON wrote:

The Knife wrote:

RaviorStygian wrote:

If Rebecca shows up in Damnation that argument won't make sense. Besides, all of the documentation says that she did survive.

About the banner, I actually thought Jill was Manuella at first.

The keyword is 'If'. If Rebecca is alive, then Capcom should make a game that tells us what she did after RE1, IF she lived. I seem to recall that in City of the Dead's (RE2 Book) epilogue, Rebecca was escaping the city with two people.

RE2 EX files, Rebecca wrote them after the Spencer Mansion....

isnt that only in the 64 version?

is there a reason they were only included in it...

Capcom is a mysterious thing..... the N64 has the Ex files, but the gamecube version doesn't....WTF?

and they're are obviously canon

PAULSAMSON wrote:

and they're are obviously canon

Thats what im wondering. why would they be left out?

i dont recall them being referrenced in Archives either.

ive also never read them....but obviously id really like to.

i think i read there was an EX file written by brad in re3. thats something id be interested in reading.