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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 33 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:14 pm | |
| Pretty much. If you've ever pre-ordered something on amazon, they like to take your money immediately, unlike most other websites, so they have to have an estimated release date. |
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DampRevil RPD Officer
DampRevil Posts : 325 Join date : 2013-11-14 Age : 30 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:47 pm | |
| Game Informer spoke with writer Hiroshi Yamashita about his writing process, what it's like to pick up Claire's storyline, and more in this new interview! Also, Capcom is debating whether or not to create a talk show for Revelations 2 so that they can communicate with players. What do you think about that? I think it could actually be a good idea, if they do it right. |
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MSR User BANNED
Screw Sony Posts : 1920 Join date : 2012-12-28
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:59 pm | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- Come to think of it, ORC is a recent release. Maybe there's a small chance for Raccoon streets being one stage? Then again, it might not count since it wasn't really a new setting.
The underground labs from both RE5 and RE6 would be cool choices for sure. Maybe the mansion from Lost in Nightmares, too. I wonder what counts as a "recent release" anyway. The Spencer estate from LIN would be cool as a Raid mode stage for Rev2. But with guardians creeping in the halls too. Also some Raccoon and Rockfort/Antarctic stages since Claire is making her return, finally. I cant wait for the demo on Live! |
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TwerkinBirkin Raccoon Citizen
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| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:35 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:04 am | |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 34 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:20 am | |
| - TwerkinBirkin wrote:
- Claire's Game Informer Scans !(:
Could be fake but here : http://alwaysthinkingofresidentevil.tumblr.com/post/100748324428/new-game-informer-scans
And about only HARDCORE fans knowing who the female villian scares me... You'd have to be a really hardcore fan to know her? Oh dear lord let it be Dr. Cameron. Wait, it said important to the RE universe... Uh... Is Alex Wesker a woman after all? ...Polly Burton...? Could be Kathy as well. Seriously grasping at straws here. |
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PAULSAMSON STARS Bravo Team
DARIOC2013 Posts : 1726 Join date : 2011-01-19 Age : 35 Location : Argentina
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:31 am | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- TwerkinBirkin wrote:
- Claire's Game Informer Scans !(:
Could be fake but here : http://alwaysthinkingofresidentevil.tumblr.com/post/100748324428/new-game-informer-scans
And about only HARDCORE fans knowing who the female villian scares me... You'd have to be a really hardcore fan to know her?
Oh dear lord let it be Dr. Cameron.
Wait, it said important to the RE universe... Uh... Is Alex Wesker a woman after all?
...Polly Burton...? Could be Kathy as well.
Seriously grasping at straws here. it is just a smoke sale. It is probably Ada again ... |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 34 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:50 am | |
| - PAULSAMSON wrote:
- it is just a smoke sale. It is probably Ada again ...
She's a spy, not a bad guy. |
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TwerkinBirkin Raccoon Citizen
Posts : 22 Join date : 2012-10-18 Location : Houston, Tx
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:46 pm | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- TwerkinBirkin wrote:
- Claire's Game Informer Scans !(:
Could be fake but here : http://alwaysthinkingofresidentevil.tumblr.com/post/100748324428/new-game-informer-scans
And about only HARDCORE fans knowing who the female villian scares me... You'd have to be a really hardcore fan to know her?
Oh dear lord let it be Dr. Cameron.
Wait, it said important to the RE universe... Uh... Is Alex Wesker a woman after all?
...Polly Burton...? Could be Kathy as well.
Seriously grasping at straws here. Wow I had never heard of Dr. Cameron before so I googled it, found and read the wiki page, and if SHE is the villian of the game I am going to def get a case of the wiggins... She looks scary and she is super evil lmao! The woman over the mic on the bracelet was saying stuff along the lines of "Tell me how you are feeling" "You can talk to me". Maybe that is just her being a scientist wanting data on her test subjects? And I think I've read somewhere that in the Japanese version of Lost In Nightmares, Alex Wesker is referred to as male (could be wrong :p). She is citing poetry though maybe that is a hint? Any poetry buffs in the RE universe? Lol EDIT: I actually just watched Biohazard 4D Executer and it has to be her! And the way she impaled his face and tortured him until he died!! Thats how the afflicted are created I think, through torture. It has to be her I'm sold. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 34 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:06 pm | |
| - TwerkinBirkin wrote:
- And I think I've read somewhere that in the Japanese version of Lost In Nightmares, Alex Wesker is referred to as male (could be wrong :p).
You're right about that. I checked the fact after writing my previous post and it indeed seems to be that Alex is referred to as a male in the original Japanese text. That quite effectively rules him out of the equation, sadly. - TwerkinBirkin wrote:
- I actually just watched Biohazard 4D Executer and it has to be her! And the way she impaled his face and tortured him until he died!! Thats how the afflicted are created I think, through torture. It has to be her I'm sold.
Awesome! If I can make even one person look up and watch 4D Executer I'm happy. The ending is pretty gruesome for sure. Sadly, they have said that no virus is at work with the Afflicted and Cameron uses her own T-Cameron virus sooo... Who knows at this point, really I would be totally psyched if it turned out to be her, though. |
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TwerkinBirkin Raccoon Citizen
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| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:24 pm | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- TwerkinBirkin wrote:
- And I think I've read somewhere that in the Japanese version of Lost In Nightmares, Alex Wesker is referred to as male (could be wrong :p).
You're right about that. I checked the fact after writing my previous post and it indeed seems to be that Alex is referred to as a male in the original Japanese text. That quite effectively rules him out of the equation, sadly.
- TwerkinBirkin wrote:
- I actually just watched Biohazard 4D Executer and it has to be her! And the way she impaled his face and tortured him until he died!! Thats how the afflicted are created I think, through torture. It has to be her I'm sold.
Awesome! If I can make even one person look up and watch 4D Executer I'm happy. The ending is pretty gruesome for sure.
Sadly, they have said that no virus is at work with the Afflicted and Cameron uses her own T-Cameron virus sooo... Who knows at this point, really I would be totally psyched if it turned out to be her, though. I have never played Dead Aim but could the Antagonist of Rev 2 be Fong Ling? Is she evil? Right now I'm literally just going through a list of female RE characters lol. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 34 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:29 pm | |
| - TwerkinBirkin wrote:
- I have never played Dead Aim but could the Antagonist of Rev 2 be Fong Ling? Is she evil?
Right now I'm literally just going through a list of female RE characters lol. Fong Ling was a good guy. You should totally play that game, it's one of my favorites in the series. Morpheus did go through an extreme makeover from a male to a female but since he was the bad guy he obviously got what was coming for him in the end. Needless to say, we're not seeing him/her again. Basically the only female antagonists we still have alive in the series are Jessica from Revelations, Dr. Cameron from 4D Executer and Svetlana Belikova from Damnation. Well, I guess there are also the female members of the Wolfpack from Operation Raccoon City but they were just hired guns, not villain material. |
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TwerkinBirkin Raccoon Citizen
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| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:17 pm | |
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PWNERX Leech Zombie
PWNER-XIII Steam : pwner_xiii Posts : 2156 Join date : 2013-01-04 Age : 28 Location : On the Edge of Reality
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:25 pm | |
| So, Capcom got some ideas using some of my ideas? (I was hoping Dr. Cameron would be a villain soon....) And now....you.... |
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DampRevil RPD Officer
DampRevil Posts : 325 Join date : 2013-11-14 Age : 30 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:59 pm | |
| Wow, I can't believe this is actually a Resident Evil game. In terms of writing that is. I'm highly impressed with the dialogue and voice acting this time around. It seems like Capcom is actually putting in some effort for Revelations 2. I was also happy to hear that the story seems to be the most prominent aspect of Revelations 2. All the reviewers point out how the story is big right from the start. About the main antagonist, it's definitely interesting to hear that she's also been a part of the series before. It's definitely not Jessica, Ada, or any other familiar female characters. She's obviously going to be another Moira-type character; someone who's involved in the timeline that we're all overlooking. The theory about her being a Burton seems like the go-to option, but it doesn't seem all the plausible in my opinion. Polly is younger than Moira, but the woman sounds older. Even older than Claire. It could be Kathy, but then again, the antagonist is intentionally seeking out Claire. I don't know what intentions Barry's wife has with Claire, but I can almost guarantee that it wouldn't be logical. The woman also is not Alex. The Japanese transcript for the Lost in Nightmares files confirmed that Alex is a man. If anyone has the patience to comb through every female character in the Resident Evil series, maybe we'll figure something out. Here's a link to the wiki. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 34 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:23 am | |
| - DampRevil wrote:
- If anyone has the patience to comb through every female character in the Resident Evil series, maybe we'll figure something out. Here's a link to the wiki.
I did and I think the three I mentioned are the only plausible antagonists. Well, unless we have another case of a good-turned-bad character. I guess there still are a bunch of Umbrella researchers out there who weren't killed or subsequently captured and jailed but it would be weird if they used someone who has been merely mentioned in a file or something. After that all we have left are random civilians that would somehow hold a grudge against Claire, which is also highly unlikely. The final option is that it's a actually computer program, somehow, and is either the Red or the White Queen. |
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TheBatMan Zombie
Posts : 138 Join date : 2014-07-19
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:16 am | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- TwerkinBirkin wrote:
- I have never played Dead Aim but could the Antagonist of Rev 2 be Fong Ling? Is she evil?
Right now I'm literally just going through a list of female RE characters lol. Fong Ling was a good guy. You should totally play that game, it's one of my favorites in the series. Morpheus did go through an extreme makeover from a male to a female but since he was the bad guy he obviously got what was coming for him in the end. Needless to say, we're not seeing him/her again.
Basically the only female antagonists we still have alive in the series are Jessica from Revelations, Dr. Cameron from 4D Executer and Svetlana Belikova from Damnation.
Well, I guess there are also the female members of the Wolfpack from Operation Raccoon City but they were just hired guns, not villain material. We can rule out Svetlana because at this stage in the timeline she's either still in Eastern Slav leading the civil war defence for the government or she's already been jailed following the events of the film. Dr. Cameron is not part of the series canon unfortunately. There is no mention of 4D Executer in the elements 15th anniversary books which classifies every title in the series (including both Outbreaks, Gaiden and ORC) into main series, side story, and 'alternative story'. Basically in Capcom's eyes it doesn't exist. And even if it did, with the power of the Cameron virus, she would have easily taken over the entire planet since the events of Raccoon City. It's a silly notion. Wolfpack again are not canon so they won't appear in a main universe title. And just because Alex Wesker has been hinted at as a male in some Japanese texts, doesn't necessarily mean its the case. Alex has yet to be formally introduced to the series and it has been over 5 years since the genesis of the character. A lot of developmental ideas can change in that time... Personally, I'd like Jessica to return to give us some continuity to the first game. But since she is rather obvious and not something only 'core fans' will spot, as well as the fact it's already been confirmed there are no plot ties to Rev1, it seems we can rule her out too. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 34 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:52 am | |
| - TheBatMan wrote:
- Dr. Cameron is not part of the series canon unfortunately. There is no mention of 4D Executer in the elements 15th anniversary books which classifies every title in the series (including both Outbreaks, Gaiden and ORC) into main series, side story, and 'alternative story'. Basically in Capcom's eyes it doesn't exist. And even if it did, with the power of the Cameron virus, she would have easily taken over the entire planet since the events of Raccoon City. It's a silly notion.
Wolfpack again are not canon so they won't appear in a main universe title. Just because it hasn't been officially stated doesn't automatically rule them out. Retcon is always a possibilty and these titles haven't been officially stated as entirely non-canon either. Besides, I don't see Cameron as a world conqueror either, she seemed to prefer being alone. We ain't exactly got many choices here. And who knows, maybe Svetlana got away somehow. |
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TheBatMan Zombie
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| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:27 am | |
| Dr Cameron's virus is the most powerful thing the series has seen. It would render the rest of the series pretty much mute if she were to reappear. Progenitor, Uroboros et all are pretty pathetic compared to what the Cameron virus can do. Someone with her abilities only Kurt Russell and his beard could take her down. Even from a story point of view, the G-Virus was Umbrella's most important research project of that time. The whole of the Raccoon City incident was based around it, with both Umbrella, the rival company and the US Government wanting to steal it from Birkin. Yet now at the same time we suddenly have this other virus which can cause a host to shape shift at will and retain all human consciousness? I don't think so...
I'm just stating facts. I'm not knocking those who see Executor as canon, that's your prerogative, it's just that probability and evidence suggests there is practically zero chance of Dr. Cameron appearing. I'd give points to Capcom if they even knew who she was at this stage. Yes, retcons are a possibility, but the fact Capcom have never acknowledged it, despite acknowledging every other title including Gaiden in that particular series classification which celebrated 15 years of the franchise, heavy suggests it is not part of the universe.
Again with Svetlana, she's spent 5 years emboiled in civil war and developing synthetic plagas. When exactly would she have time to bugger off to an isolated island and run whatever it is that's been going on there. Rev2 is set in 2011, right at the height of the events of Damnation or immediately after, therefore she is not available.
The fact we haven't got so many choices is why a small retcon of Alex Wesker's gender (small because he/she hasn't been introduced in-game yet) is becoming more and more likely, not to mention we already have confirmation the afflicted are test subjects and that they are on an isolated island which perfectly backs up what is stated in the Lost in Nightmares files. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 34 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:37 am | |
| Alex does sound like a possibility and it would actually make sense but, well... We'll see, I guess. - TheBatMan wrote:
- Even from a story point of view, the G-Virus was Umbrella's most important research project of that time. The whole of the Raccoon City incident was based around it, with both Umbrella, the rival company and the US Government wanting to steal it from Birkin. Yet now at the same time we suddenly have this other virus which can cause a host to shape shift at will and retain all human consciousness? I don't think so...
To be fair, I don't think even Umbrella knew what her version of the virus was truly capable of doing. Otherwise they would've sent the much more effective USS to get the research data instead of the cannon fodder UBCS. They were most likely just covering their bases. And who knows, maybe she was one of the few actually capable of adapting the virus, much like Albert with the whatever virus that was pumped into him, while others would just succumb to it and either die or turn into zombies. It is based on the T-virus, after all. Though, just the mere fact that her research IS based on a virus would make her less likely to be the culprit since it has already been made clear there's no virus in play here. Then again, even Alex's research was based on a virus. |
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TheBatMan Zombie
Posts : 138 Join date : 2014-07-19
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:01 am | |
| The point is, the G-Virus took over 10 years of research to create. Spencer even authorised construction of the underground lab in Raccoon City purposefully for the G-Virus project to be housed there. If successful it was to be the pinnacle of everything the company had ever achieved.
Now suddenly we're expected to believe that another virus was created by an Umbrella researcher which actually had the ability to transform the host's consciousness into other infected organisms? Why would you even bother with the G-Virus if you had an alternative weapon as powerful as that? Dr Cameron could literally transform her memories and personality into anybody she infected, thus she could have the whole planet in her hands in a very short space of time if she wished. Why on earth would she then piss about with torturing humans to drive them insane on some lonely island?
If this virus was in existence, Umbrella would have known all about it and it certainly would have been of more value than the G-Virus.
The concept of the Cameron virus is ridiculous and too far fetched even for this series, which says a lot.
We don't know the Cameron virus is based on the t-Virus either, that's just speculation on your part. She was already infected with the t-Virus before she injected herself with her own virus. Host compatibility is also complete speculation. She infected Roger pretty easily so I'd assume its much more compatible than the Wesker virus.
Alex Wesker perfected the immortality virus in 2006. She wouldn't need test subjects for virus experimentation in 2011.
At the end of the day, Dr. Cameron is not referenced in any official material, 4D Executor is not recognised by Capcom, and the film wasn't even officially released outside of Japan, therefore missing over half its audience. She is not a returning character. |
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PAULSAMSON STARS Bravo Team
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| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:11 am | |
| - TheBatMan wrote:
Alex Wesker perfected the immortality virus in 2006. She wouldn't need test subjects for virus experimentation in 2011.
Alex is a guy according to the japanese version alex is clearly referred as a man. |
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TheBatMan Zombie
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| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:11 pm | |
| - PAULSAMSON wrote:
- TheBatMan wrote:
Alex Wesker perfected the immortality virus in 2006. She wouldn't need test subjects for virus experimentation in 2011.
Alex is a guy according to the japanese version alex is clearly referred as a man. Yeah I'm aware of that. But like I said before, things can easily change considering Alex hasn't been formally introduced yet and RE5 was written 6 years ago now. The original plan might have been for Alex to be a man, but time passes, new development teams come and go and ideas change. Alex's gender isn't specified in any of the games either, just the Archives book. So if Alex does turn out to be female it's only a very, very minor retcon. Plus it would be a smart move for Capcom to make as if Alex were male, people would be fearing a carbon copy of Albert Wesker. Think about it, who else could it be really? And let's be realistic here before people start talking of Veronica Ashford or Alexia clones. Let's consider the evidence; 1. Capcom has said it's a female character we know who is important to the series lore. You have to be a hardcore fan to work out who it is and you won't recognise her voice. This suggests to me it's a character that has been mentioned in the back story but not yet introduced. Alex Wesker fits that profile on all three counts. 2. The game is set on an isolated island full of incarcerated test subjects, the exact same circumstances Alex Wesker was in. 3. In the teaser trailer there is a woman in a white business suit who stands out from the crowd with her back to us. She wears no bracelet yet wears black sunglasses, a sure hint that she is a Wesker. As for other candidates I've already explained with evidence why I believe Dr. Cameron and Svetlana Belikova won't be involved. So who else is there, realistically? I don't know if it is Alex or not, I could be completely wrong. But at this stage I cannot see who else it could be. |
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PWNERX Leech Zombie
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| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:02 pm | |
| Alex Wesker = Alexia Wesker?
My money is still on Cameron, considering how only the most Hardcore fans know about her. |
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DampRevil RPD Officer
DampRevil Posts : 325 Join date : 2013-11-14 Age : 30 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:32 pm | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- I did and I think the three I mentioned are the only plausible antagonists. Well, unless we have another case of a good-turned-bad character.
I guess there still are a bunch of Umbrella researchers out there who weren't killed or subsequently captured and jailed but it would be weird if they used someone who has been merely mentioned in a file or something. After that all we have left are random civilians that would somehow hold a grudge against Claire, which is also highly unlikely.
The final option is that it's a actually computer program, somehow, and is either the Red or the White Queen. Yeah, I agree. It seems weird that Capcom would use a character from a file. I'm also doubting the computer program theory. It's definitely interesting, but remember, the antagonist has a grudge against Claire. Someone also had to send that team to kidnap Claire and Moira. About Alex, I doubt him in a side story. It was also confirmed that Revelations 2 doesn't have big ideas, and while they were probably referring to the gameplay aspect, I think Alex's introduction would be a big idea. Speaking of Alex, he's a man and Capcom probably won't change that. I don't mean to sound sexist either, but we know Capcom and they're not going to make the next possible major antagonist a female. Capcom probably doesn't want Chris rivaling a woman for the rest of the series. |
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