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Jamesy Leech Zombie
Posts : 2096 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 34 Location : Raccoon Forest
| Subject: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:17 pm | |
| After playing RE5 numerous times throughout the years found that up until the you battle a 'controlled by Wesker' Jill Valentine most of the game is quite boring. The best parts in my opinion is when you board the tanker and fight Albert Wesker. So the game builds memento towards the end. On a side note I actually thought that RE4 in contrast lost memento in the later parts of the game when you go to the island to rescue Ashley but the castle and village stages were a stroke of genius. Although the part where you fight Jack Krausher was interesting. Overall I enjoyed RE4 much more than RE5.
In my view the main storyline mode in RE5 is quite mediocre in quality but I think all the extra content and unlockables make the game 'great'. Lost in Nightmares was not really that good (not long enough and not enough enemies) but I thought the mansion was cool. Desperate Escape was WAY to short and pointless.
Do you guys share my views on RE5? I suspect Capcom were trying to compensate for the 'not great' main storyline by releasing Gold Edition with all the extra content. |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:39 pm | |
| I like all of the game I've played equally (Well maybe except 0. I wish shotguns, grenade launchers, and the grapple gun didn't take 2 slots.) I know that no story is perfect, but I still enjoyed 5' story. When a Big Bad like Wesker is doing what he's doing, he, like Chris said, needed to be stopped there and now.
Four's shifted memento can be justified in-universe because Leon was going against enemies with literal guns this time and better training, defense, and equipment. Plus, they were the Army Saddler was going to use for his "Plan B" in case Ashley died or was rescued so it makes sense for them to be more action-hardened. |
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Jamesy Leech Zombie
Posts : 2096 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 34 Location : Raccoon Forest
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:51 pm | |
| - Nobudy wrote:
- I like all of the game I've played equally (Well maybe except 0. I wish shotguns, grenade launchers, and the grapple gun didn't take 2 slots.) I know that no story is perfect, but I still enjoyed 5' story. When a Big Bad like Wesker is doing what he's doing, he, like Chris said, needed to be stopped there and now.
Four's shifted memento can be justified in-universe because Leon was going against enemies with literal guns this time and better training, defense, and equipment. Plus, they were the Army Saddler was going to use for his "Plan B" in case Ashley died or was rescued so it makes sense for them to be more action-hardened. Each to there own I guess. The most boring part of RE5 was when you escape the fortress with Josh and Sheva:sleep: . My favourite bit of the game is when you fight wesker on the plane |
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Shrike RPD Officer
Posts : 241 Join date : 2013-04-01 Location : Silent Hill
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:03 pm | |
| The story of RE5 cannot be compared to RE4 because RE4 has no story. Saving the kidnapped president's daughter by a random idiot plot is by far the worst RE storyline.
I don't think RE5 is boring up until that part. Sure, RE4 is better (like you said, RE4's chapter on the island is pretty bad, but the village and the castle chapters were great), but RE5 wasn't bad, generally looking. I actually dislike most of the tanker places in RE5 though, so I dunno.
I think 5 had bad atmosphere and it was kind of all over the place, that's probably why you didn't like it. As a RE game, I dislike it myself, but as a game generally? It's great. It has good gameplay, amazing graphics, fantastic mechanics (best in any of the latter RE titles, actually, and that includes 4, 5, 6 and Rev), and an okay plot. The difficulties are well balanced, and there is a lot to play through. |
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Ssplain Crimson Head
ResidentJsee Steam : Resident Jsee Posts : 773 Join date : 2013-06-18 Age : 34 Location : Some kind of room
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:09 pm | |
| I did enjoy five. There are many things I did not like about the game but overall I had a good time playing it through. The second time around it was very boring though. It was not horror so the slow parts of the game felt very, very slow. The story was mediocre, but could have been much worse. I enjoyed how it tied in to the progenitor and I also really enjoyed the labs. I was madly addicted to the Mercenaries for about a month as well. My rating...
6/10 |
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Jamesy Leech Zombie
Posts : 2096 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 34 Location : Raccoon Forest
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:15 pm | |
| - Shrike wrote:
- The story of RE5 cannot be compared to RE4 because RE4 has no story. Saving the kidnapped president's daughter by a random idiot plot is by far the worst RE storyline.
I don't think RE5 is boring up until that part. Sure, RE4 is better (like you said, RE4's chapter on the island is pretty bad, but the village and the castle chapters were great), but RE5 wasn't bad, generally looking. I actually dislike most of the tanker places in RE5 though, so I dunno.
I think 5 had bad atmosphere and it was kind of all over the place, that's probably why you didn't like it. As a RE game, I dislike it myself, but as a game generally? It's great. It has good gameplay, amazing graphics, fantastic mechanics (best in any of the latter RE titles, actually, and that includes 4, 5, 6 and Rev), and an okay plot. The difficulties are well balanced, and there is a lot to play through. Speaking of RE6 I think it was a confusing and over the top mess of a game but that said I didn't think RE5 was a better game than 6 at all. I may be in the minority but I enjoyed chris redfields story in that game most because the relationship between chris and piers was interesting. I enjoyed leon's story the least and jakes campaign could be fun at times (especially when fending of Utensink) I also think that RE6 was a better game than RE5 despite what the critics think. |
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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 32 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:41 pm | |
| Resident Evil 5 is fun. It's Resident Evil 4 with multiplayer. Which game is better? Resident Evil 4. By far. Who gives a shit about story? I don't play Resident Evil for the narrative. I play Resident Evil for the experience. Resident Evil 6 was a horrible experience with a story so confusing it's like a highschooler wrote the script, fed it through a shredder, and tried to piece it back together. |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:08 pm | |
| - Vandal wrote:
- Resident Evil 6 was a horrible experience with a story so confusing it's like a highschooler wrote the script, fed it through a shredder, and tried to piece it back together.
While you're still entitled to your own opinion, the story's weird I'll say. And it definitely has its stupid points. Leon's over-affection of Ada clouding his judgement, Chris and Piers not shooting Ada multiple times (One is justified since Leon's horny self stopped Chris one time), Sherry's case of "Forgot about her powers". And Ada's cockiness counts. The more I think about it though, Ada's the catalyst of RE6's plot. Had Ada not made a partnership with Simmons, he never would have used Carla to "replicate" Ada. And Carla wouldn't have become ax-crazy with the C-Virus. The game's still enjoyable, but I'm one of those types who over-analyzes various plots. |
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Ssplain Crimson Head
ResidentJsee Steam : Resident Jsee Posts : 773 Join date : 2013-06-18 Age : 34 Location : Some kind of room
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:21 pm | |
| I feel like re6 used the plot (lol) to reinforce gameplay and visual effects instead of using plot to reinforce the story development within the RE Universe. RE5 mostly avoided this approach and that is something I can be greatful for. |
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Industrial Ridden RPD Officer
Jagerdu Posts : 395 Join date : 2013-01-02 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:00 pm | |
| I love RE5 for many reasons and it will forever be a part of my top 5 RE games of all time. Unless a few lucky ones come out of their hiding spots and wipe it from my list! |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:14 pm | |
| - Ssplain wrote:
- I feel like re6 used the plot (lol) to reinforce gameplay and visual effects instead of using plot to reinforce the story development within the RE Universe. RE5 mostly avoided this approach and that is something I can be greatful for.
As I always say, There's always something better. But there's always something worse. Most likely, you'll be dealing with whatever's worse. |
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Jamesy Leech Zombie
Posts : 2096 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 34 Location : Raccoon Forest
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:57 am | |
| Resident Evil 6 may have been more goofy than RE5 but had it less 'boring' parts than RE5 did. Unlike RE5 the game had amazing environments for you to play in. Still though RE6 was disappointing but was overall a more entertaining game than 5. RE5 focused more on story than interesting environments The beauty of games like RE4, RE2 and RE3 and RE1 remake is that they both have great environments with great storylines. Okay so saving the presidents daughter is cheesy but there was something fun about countering all the traps that los illuminados tried to set up for you and Ashley in the castle and the village. The story may have been silly but I think it worked very well. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:22 am | |
| I enjoyed 5 enough for it to be my third favorite title in the series. It's also my most replayed RE along with the original and 2. I still think it has the best story out of all RE games. Two major antagonists dead, a new one revealed, Jill presumed dead... It's just full on awesome. Co-op was a fun addition when I could finally experience my favorite game series together with my friends. The sheer replay value is amazing and they further added to it with the extra chapters and Mercenaries Reunion, though I never cared for the versus modes. I'd give it 9/10. - Jamesy wrote:
- The most boring part of RE5 was when you escape the fortress with Josh and Sheva
If you're talking about Desperate Escape, it was Josh and Jill. |
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Jamesy Leech Zombie
Posts : 2096 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 34 Location : Raccoon Forest
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:10 am | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- I enjoyed 5 enough for it to be my third favorite title in the series. It's also my most replayed RE along with the original and 2. I still think it has the best story out of all RE games. Two major antagonists dead, a new one revealed, Jill presumed dead... It's just full on awesome. Co-op was a fun addition when I could finally experience my favorite game series together with my friends. The sheer replay value is amazing and they further added to it with the extra chapters and Mercenaries Reunion, though I never cared for the versus modes. I'd give it 9/10.
- Jamesy wrote:
- The most boring part of RE5 was when you escape the fortress with Josh and Sheva
If you're talking about Desperate Escape, it was Josh and Jill. No I mean this part of the game just before you battle irving the parts of the game based in the shanty town were uninteresting. |
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Ssplain Crimson Head
ResidentJsee Steam : Resident Jsee Posts : 773 Join date : 2013-06-18 Age : 34 Location : Some kind of room
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:04 am | |
| - Jamesy wrote:
- Resident Evil 6 may have been more goofy than RE5 but had it less 'boring' parts than RE5 did. Unlike RE5 the game had amazing environments for you to play in.
Still though RE6 was disappointing but was overall a more entertaining game than 5. RE5 focused more on story than interesting environments The beauty of games like RE4, RE2 and RE3 and RE1 remake is that they both have great environments with great storylines. Okay so saving the presidents daughter is cheesy but there was something fun about countering all the traps that los illuminados tried to set up for you and Ashley in the castle and the village. The story may have been silly but I think it worked very well.
I agree with you on this. RE6 was less boring than 5, but in 5 you actually cared about what was going on so it made up for the boringness. RE4 was cheesy, but it was such a good game it didn't even matter. The characters in the game were very interesting IMO. You had the Los Illuminados cult, Leon going in alone(for the most part), and Wesker's group working behind the scenes. It was just a lot of fun, regardless of the cheese. |
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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 32 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:20 am | |
| - Nobudy wrote:
- Vandal wrote:
- Resident Evil 6 was a horrible experience with a story so confusing it's like a highschooler wrote the script, fed it through a shredder, and tried to piece it back together.
While you're still entitled to your own opinion, the story's weird I'll say. And it definitely has its stupid points. Leon's over-affection of Ada clouding his judgement, Chris and Piers not shooting Ada multiple times (One is justified since Leon's horny self stopped Chris one time), Sherry's case of "Forgot about her powers". And Ada's cockiness counts. The more I think about it though, Ada's the catalyst of RE6's plot. Had Ada not made a partnership with Simmons, he never would have used Carla to "replicate" Ada. And Carla wouldn't have become ax-crazy with the C-Virus. The game's still enjoyable, but I'm one of those types who over-analyzes various plots. What the hell was Ada's motive to begin with? I must have asked this everywhere, I have no idea. Why did she save Jake and Sherry? Why? Why was she helping Leon and Helena? It made no sense. Why did she do anything? |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:37 am | |
| - Vandal wrote:
- Nobudy wrote:
- Vandal wrote:
- Resident Evil 6 was a horrible experience with a story so confusing it's like a highschooler wrote the script, fed it through a shredder, and tried to piece it back together.
While you're still entitled to your own opinion, the story's weird I'll say. And it definitely has its stupid points. Leon's over-affection of Ada clouding his judgement, Chris and Piers not shooting Ada multiple times (One is justified since Leon's horny self stopped Chris one time), Sherry's case of "Forgot about her powers". And Ada's cockiness counts. The more I think about it though, Ada's the catalyst of RE6's plot. Had Ada not made a partnership with Simmons, he never would have used Carla to "replicate" Ada. And Carla wouldn't have become ax-crazy with the C-Virus. The game's still enjoyable, but I'm one of those types who over-analyzes various plots. What the hell was Ada's motive to begin with? I must have asked this everywhere, I have no idea. Why did she save Jake and Sherry? Why? Why was she helping Leon and Helena? It made no sense. Why did she do anything? My thoughts exactly. All Ada really did was indirectly risk 7 billion lives (had it not been for Chris and Piers) due to her own selfish motives that we STILL don't know about after 15 years. What's the point of bringing her in when we'll have more questions than answers? If she appears in RE7, they better kill her off so Leon can get on with his life, or they could tell us her motive, and then kill her off. This is why I have problems playing Ada's scenarios. What am I playing for? What's my goal? She didn't even get an epilogue. |
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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 32 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:42 am | |
| Agreed, this her campaign was a waste of space, they could have used all that memroy to make the other campaigns look less muddy, or focused their efforts elsewhere to make the gameplay better. Sure they explained some things in othe campaigns, but never something important. Like why that chainsaw guy lande in front of Jake and Sherry. That didn't need to be explained at all. What does need to be explained is the why. |
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Jamesy Leech Zombie
Posts : 2096 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 34 Location : Raccoon Forest
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:12 pm | |
| - Ssplain wrote:
- Jamesy wrote:
- Resident Evil 6 may have been more goofy than RE5 but had it less 'boring' parts than RE5 did. Unlike RE5 the game had amazing environments for you to play in.
Still though RE6 was disappointing but was overall a more entertaining game than 5. RE5 focused more on story than interesting environments The beauty of games like RE4, RE2 and RE3 and RE1 remake is that they both have great environments with great storylines. Okay so saving the presidents daughter is cheesy but there was something fun about countering all the traps that los illuminados tried to set up for you and Ashley in the castle and the village. The story may have been silly but I think it worked very well.
I agree with you on this. RE6 was less boring than 5, but in 5 you actually cared about what was going on so it made up for the boringness. RE4 was cheesy, but it was such a good game it didn't even matter. The characters in the game were very interesting IMO. You had the Los Illuminados cult, Leon going in alone(for the most part), and Wesker's group working behind the scenes. It was just a lot of fun, regardless of the cheese. RE5 kicked RE4 and RE6's ass in terms of the amount of extra content that you could unlock. Surprised that RE6 did not have more unlockable's? Maybe that's because the main storylines in RE6 were so long that Capcom could not fit a ton of extra features in the game? In my opinion all the unloackable bonus features in RE5 overshadowed the main storyline to a degree. |
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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 32 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:45 pm | |
| A lot of Resident Evil 5's content you had to buy. Two extra chapters more mini games? All of that for $20 more. Resident Evil 4 had an extra full length campaign, an Ada mini game, and mercenaries, you didn't have to pay for any of that. |
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Shrike RPD Officer
Posts : 241 Join date : 2013-04-01 Location : Silent Hill
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:50 pm | |
| It's cute when people talk about paying. It doesn't matter about the unlockables, RE4 > RE5 >>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>> RE6.
That's a bit of overreacting, but still. |
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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 32 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:59 pm | |
| It seemse Resident Evil really is… Degenerating.
YEAHHHHHHH!!! |
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Ssplain Crimson Head
ResidentJsee Steam : Resident Jsee Posts : 773 Join date : 2013-06-18 Age : 34 Location : Some kind of room
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:07 pm | |
| - Vandal wrote:
- A lot of Resident Evil 5's content you had to buy. Two extra chapters more mini games? All of that for $20 more. Resident Evil 4 had an extra full length campaign, an Ada mini game, and mercenaries, you didn't have to pay for any of that.
Exactly! RE4 was before the DLC frenzy. They put more care into the unlockable content and we did not have to pay extra for any of it. Better quality at a better price. DLC does not help the consumer. |
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Jamesy Leech Zombie
Posts : 2096 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 34 Location : Raccoon Forest
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:16 pm | |
| - Vandal wrote:
- A lot of Resident Evil 5's content you had to buy. Two extra chapters more mini games? All of that for $20 more. Resident Evil 4 had an extra full length campaign, an Ada mini game, and mercenaries, you didn't have to pay for any of that.
Did it occur to you that you can get the extra stuff for FREE on gold edition? |
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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 32 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:28 pm | |
| - Jamesy wrote:
- Vandal wrote:
- A lot of Resident Evil 5's content you had to buy. Two extra chapters more mini games? All of that for $20 more. Resident Evil 4 had an extra full length campaign, an Ada mini game, and mercenaries, you didn't have to pay for any of that.
Did it occur to you that you can get the extra stuff for FREE on gold edition? Gold Edition came out a year after Resident Evil 5 came out. A lot of people didn't buy Gold Edition first, and instead of spending $50 for the same disc and more extras it's cheaper to buy the $20 DLC pack. Or, are you that self centered that, that didn't even cross your mind? Edit: Also, don't get smart with me. I taught you how to download gold edition. You think I'm oblivious to that? Fuck you. |
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