the difference between a good actor and a bad actor

Ghost Leader wrote:

The Internet makes it easy for people to do and say things that in real life they'd wouldn't have the guts to, or get their asses beat if they did.

Tis true.

But just so you guys know, anything I post on the forums I would easily say to you face to face.

Except maybe that "I Feel Pretty" song I quoted in that other thread im sure. Ha. Sometimes I act up a wee bit more on the forums.

Watch The Garbage Pail Kids and then watch one of the Lord of the Rings movies. You'll see.

VoyageTreader08 wrote:

Watch The Garbage Pail Kids and then watch one of the Lord of the Rings movies. You'll see.

alright then

this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


and this "film" HORRIBLE!!


that's all i hear from you, re-think about what you're saying!

soapboxer wrote:

this "film" HORRIBLE!!

I disagree because opinions.

Is that supposed to rile us all up or something? Make us cry because you think some games we like are bad? I personally don't fucking care what you think and I doubt anyone else here does either.

And why are you referring to them as films? They aren't films, they're games.

Now stop acting like a whiny little bitch, because that's what you've been doing this entire topic. The Internet isn't censored to conform to any one person's outlook, nor should it be. If you can't handle games and movies getting negative reviews, get off the web because there isn't shit that you, I, or anyone else can or should do about it.

soapboxer wrote:

VoyageTreader08 wrote:

Watch The Garbage Pail Kids and then watch one of the Lord of the Rings movies. You'll see.

alright then

this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


and this "film" HORRIBLE!!


that's all i hear from you, re-think about what you're saying!

So...Resident Evil 0, the Outbreak Series, Gaiden, Survivor, The Mobile Games, Umbrella and Darkside Chronicles aren't horrible? YAY!

PWNERX wrote:

soapboxer wrote:

VoyageTreader08 wrote:

Watch The Garbage Pail Kids and then watch one of the Lord of the Rings movies. You'll see.

alright then

this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


this "film" HORRIBLE!!


and this "film" HORRIBLE!!


that's all i hear from you, re-think about what you're saying!

So...Resident Evil 0, the Outbreak Series, Gaiden, Survivor, The Mobile Games, Umbrella and Darkside Chronicles aren't horrible? YAY!

in case you can't tell, those aren't my words, they're yours!

re-read the last line of that post

you think they're just horrible live action films, but why?

I still can't get over the first sentence of this thread. I haven't connected a Japanese game with an anime since I was like 13 and knew little to nothing about anime to begin with.

I have never treated an English game like an A-movie either, they are games, not movies. On that note, I'm not sure if I've ever even played a truly English game.

Last I checked no one on in the history of the universe ever refered to those games as films.

Mass Distraction wrote:

I still can't get over the first sentence of this thread. I haven't connected a Japanese game with an anime since I was like 13 and knew little to nothing about anime to begin with.

I have never treated an English game like an A-movie either, they are games, not movies. On that note, I'm not sure if I've ever even played a truly English game.

maybe not you, but you're part of the majority that DOES treat a game like a film, always judging a good actor from a bad actor, that's what i don't get

Judging actors has nothing to do with a form of media being a film or a game or a webseries or a flash animation.

Plus last I checked, the only games I have seen being referred to as films have been Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls. So to say, the majority rule does not apply here.

Teh Spike wrote:

When someone's acting is so horrid, or whatever the case may be, and it takes me completely out of the scene, that is a great reason to flat out say that their acting isnt so great.

well, it still beats reading a book doesn't it?

Mass Distraction wrote:

Judging actors has nothing to do with a form of media being a film or a game or a webseries or a flash animation.

Plus last I checked, the only games I have seen being referred to as films have been Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls. So to say, the majority rule does not apply here.

tell that to the last author i looked at who reviewed RE6,

i said to them: why judge the actors? it's not a live action film!
and they replied with: yes it is, it's the equivalent of one

soapboxer wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

I still can't get over the first sentence of this thread. I haven't connected a Japanese game with an anime since I was like 13 and knew little to nothing about anime to begin with.

I have never treated an English game like an A-movie either, they are games, not movies. On that note, I'm not sure if I've ever even played a truly English game.

maybe not you, but you're part of the majority that DOES treat a game like a film, always judging a good actor from a bad actor, that's what i don't get

If you didn't notice, films and anime aren't the only mediums that have actors...Live theater, musicals, audio dramas, etc. all have actors, and I can say that any actor in any of these mediums are shit if I want to, that doesn't mean that I'm treating them like films.

If I judge a movie negatively for its bad special effects, am I treating it like a video game; judging it by its graphics?

soapboxer wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

Judging actors has nothing to do with a form of media being a film or a game or a webseries or a flash animation.

Plus last I checked, the only games I have seen being referred to as films have been Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls. So to say, the majority rule does not apply here.

tell that to the last author i looked at who reviewed RE6,

i said to them: why judge the actors? it's not a live action film!
and they replied with: yes it is, it's the equivalent of one

So one reviewer saying that means that we all treat them like that? Games have actors, they've been around for a long time. They're part of the game, therefore they shall be judged.

37 Narwhals wrote:

I can say that any actor in any of these mediums are shit if I want to

again, what you call "bad acting" beats reading a book doesn't it?

soapboxer wrote:

again, what you call "bad acting" beats reading a book doesn't it?

Nothing beats reading a book.

37 Narwhals wrote:

If you didn't notice, films and anime aren't the only mediums that have actors...Live theater, musicals, audio dramas, etc. all have actors, and I can say that any actor in any of these mediums are shit if I want to, that doesn't mean that I'm treating them like films.

Mass Distraction wrote:

Judging actors has nothing to do with a form of media being a film or a game or a webseries or a flash animation.
So one reviewer saying that means that we all treat them like that? Games have actors, they've been around for a long time. They're part of the game, therefore they shall be judged.

well all the reviews i've seen for RE1, one of them said: i might as well be watching a bad film

every other review didn't say those exact words but they all gave the same criticism

same with japnese RPGs, one review i looked at had a part in that said: there needs to be a japanese voice cast considering i watch so many animes

everyone delivers similar criticism to that as well

To be fair I've been watching Screwattack, NerdCubed, ProJared, Classic Game Room and Tilt in addition to reading reviews on Rely on Horror and pretty much all of Finland's biggest gaming magazines (and a couple of foreign ones too like the Official Playstation Magazine and Game Reactor) for years and none of them has compared games to movies apart from the aforementioned Beyond: Two Souls.

Besides, games have voice actors too so of course that's going to be one aspect to judge when reviewing them.

will1234562 wrote:

soapboxer wrote:

again, what you call "bad acting" beats reading a book doesn't it?

Nothing beats reading a book.

I completelly agree with Will, nothing beats reading a book, except just movies, music, comics, plays, shows, video games, board games, marbles, play-doh, coloring, drawing, sketching, painting, eating, drinking, breathing, torture, death, hell, etc., otherwise books are totally the best!

I'll give ya that Soap. But you can't see the world through a mirror. Lemme just drop some F-bombs as well, like GL. Fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck!

Teh Spike wrote:

torture, death, hell,

Well that escalated quickly.

Mass Distraction wrote:

To be fair I've been watching Screwattack, NerdCubed, ProJared, Classic Game Room and Tilt in addition to reading reviews on Rely on Horror and pretty much all of Finland's biggest gaming magazines (and a couple of foreign ones too like the Official Playstation Magazine and Game Reactor) for years and none of them has compared games to movies apart from the aforementioned Beyond: Two Souls.

Besides, games have voice actors too so of course that's going to be one aspect to judge when reviewing them.

but look at a individual user review for RE1 and you will find out that they all judge the voice cast and nothing more

will1234562 wrote:

soapboxer wrote:

again, what you call "bad acting" beats reading a book doesn't it?

Nothing beats reading a book.

because if there's no voice cast that's what you're doing, you're reading the whole story like a book

that is something else i see in these reviews

some reviews have said: the acting is so bad that i'd rather have none

soapboxer wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

To be fair I've been watching Screwattack, NerdCubed, ProJared, Classic Game Room and Tilt in addition to reading reviews on Rely on Horror and pretty much all of Finland's biggest gaming magazines (and a couple of foreign ones too like the Official Playstation Magazine and Game Reactor) for years and none of them has compared games to movies apart from the aforementioned Beyond: Two Souls.

Besides, games have voice actors too so of course that's going to be one aspect to judge when reviewing them.

but look at a individual user review for RE1 and you will find out that they all judge the voice cast and nothing more

I honestly trust a professional review a lot more than some random internet review made by "some dude".

See, something like that would never fly in a professional review. If all you take into account are some people's biased opinions you're gonna have a bad time.

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Honestly Soaper, do you even read? I dont care to read books very often, but i at least appreciate them. You dont need a voice or music when you read a novel, the pictures illustrated by the author's words plus your own imagination, make the experience. You keep bashing on books and reading, similar to the way some hate on voice work. Hmmm...hypocrite much?

soapboxer wrote:

again, what you call "bad acting" beats reading a book doesn't it?

You do realize that we're talking about a franchise where a significant amount of the back story is told through reading in game files, right? I quite enjoyed finding books to read lying around in the games. Not to mention that there are Resident Evil novels as well, which I plan to eventually read. With a book you can fill in the blanks and imagine whatever actors you want, as well as go at your own pace so you have time to think and draw conclusions about what you've read.

soapboxer wrote:

because if there's no voice cast that's what you're doing, you're reading the whole story like a book

that is something else i see in these reviews

some reviews have said: the acting is so bad that i'd rather have none

That wouldn't work well for everything, but Parasite Eve (and many other older RPGs) pulled it off nicely.

Acting is acting, regardless of whether it's in films, games, Broadway, or any other media, and is subject to critique just the same as any other element. Are you an actor? I ask because, otherwise, I can't conceivably figure out why you have such an issue with people critiquing one's performance. Acting is no different from any other trade, everyone has a different level of skill in it.

will1234562 wrote:

Teh Spike wrote:

torture, death, hell,

Well that escalated quickly.

Where's a meme when you need one

soapboxer wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

I still can't get over the first sentence of this thread. I haven't connected a Japanese game with an anime since I was like 13 and knew little to nothing about anime to begin with.

I have never treated an English game like an A-movie either, they are games, not movies. On that note, I'm not sure if I've ever even played a truly English game.

maybe not you, but you're part of the majority that DOES treat a game like a film, always judging a good actor from a bad actor, that's what i don't get

Ah fucking hell! Teh Spike just doesn't understand why you fucking idiots judge someone who judges a good actor from a bad actor?!? What the hell gives YOU the right to judge whether or not someone else jugdes an actor's abilities as good or bad?! I'm so upset about this. Teh Spike is not even going to sleep tonight because Teh Spike cannot get over how infuriating it is for someone else to judge someone else's acting as good or bad? OMFG!

You still there soapboxer?