the difference between a good actor and a bad actor

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i know you all treat a japanese game as an anime, but you also treat an english game as an A-movie film

well i don't understand how anyone and everyone can judge the difference between a good actor and a bad actor, whether it's a game, cartoon or film

User BANNED Screw Sony Posts : 1920 Join date : 2012-12-28

Difference between a good actor and bad actor; A good example of bad acting would be DC Douglas as Wesker in UC and RE5. An example of good acting would be a VA who sounds genuine and "real", like Alyson Court as Claire.

Everyone's a critic.

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i don't think that's true

it could just be the director making the actor do the wrong character, or it could be that they are meant to sound like that because the author of the story didn't write a likeable character

it's not the actor's fault

User BANNED Screw Sony Posts : 1920 Join date : 2012-12-28

Lemme put it like this.

What is the point and purpose of acting and actors? To portray a character, in a story. Now you would judge them based on, primarily the "actor"'s ability to make you believe that they ARE that character, right?

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Teh Spike wrote:

But it is true.

Teh Spike wrote:: Lemme put it like this.

What is the point and purpose of acting and actors? To portray a character, in a story. Now you would judge them based on, primarily the "actor"'s ability to make you believe that they ARE that character, right?

well i'm saying it isn't

there's no reason when you're in the middle of a cutscene to just come out and say: wow! this acting is great (or) this is the worst acting ever

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soapboxer wrote:

Teh Spike wrote:: But it is true.

well i'm saying it isn't

there's no reason when you're in the middle of a cutscene to just come out and say: wow! this acting is great (or) this is the worst acting ever

And im saying it is. So what?

You cant expect everyone to view movies or acting like you do. When someone's acting is so horrid, or whatever the case may be, and it takes me completely out of the scene, that is a great reason to flat out say that their acting isnt so great. and I will judge one's acting on their ability to make me believe they ARE that character.

I remember watching Sean Penn in Mystic River, and at the point when he finds out his daughter died, his performance, I though to myself, "He's a real good actor". SPOILER ALERT!

Umbrella Scientist Posts : 534 Join date : 2012-10-27

To me there is no such thing as a "good" or "bad" VA - there are VAs I like and VAs I don't like. If I don't like the voice of a character there's a big chance that I'll also dislike the character itself. So basically - it depends on people's opinions.
Simple example:

Teh Spike wrote:: Difference between a good actor and bad actor; A good example of bad acting would be DC Douglas as Wesker in UC and RE5. An example of good acting would be a VA who sounds genuine and "real", like Alyson Court as Claire.

My opinion is the opposite - I like DC Douglas as Wesker's VA,but I'm very fond of Alyson Court,because when she screams or shows more "feminine" emotions(as crying for example) her voice sounds too squeaky for my taste. That also reminded me of Ashley and made things even worst. Razz

Do note: I'm not saying that one VA is better that the other - I just enjoyed one of them more and that made him a "good" voice actor to me.

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soapboxer wrote:: well i don't understand how anyone and everyone can judge the difference between a good actor and a bad actor, whether it's a game, cartoon or film

Because anyone and everyone has the right to an opinion, and because acting quality is subjective? All it really comes down to is "I do/don't like that performance." If someone says an actor is bad, all they're saying is that they don't think the actor did a good job in the roles they've seen.

soapboxer wrote:: i know you all treat a japanese game as an anime, but you also treat an english game as an A-movie film

Wat

The talent of an actor/voice actor is completely subjective. For most people, it's based on how believable their performance is. The term "good actor/voice actor" refers to an actor being able to make their character seem like a real person and not just fake character and a voice actor reading lines. That's why Naughty Dog is so praised for their characters in Uncharted and The Last Of Us. The voice actors do a phenomenal job at really making the characters seem genuine and real.

Basically, like everyone else has mentioned, it boils down to your own opinion.

soapboxer wrote:: well i'm saying it isn't

there's no reason when you're in the middle of a cutscene to just come out and say: wow! this acting is great (or) this is the worst acting ever

And when you become lord of the galaxy, that might matter to me. Until then, I couldn't care less what you do or don't approve.

Why is this a thread? No no...why is this a thread AND in Resident Evil Discussion?

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Aegis wrote:: Why is this a thread? No no...why is this a thread AND in Resident Evil Discussion?

Oh, dont worry your pretty little head Aegis, I was wondering that same thing. Why this is in Resident Evil Discussion.

Anyway, I think the lord of the galaxy should head over to the Inroduction section and introduce himself. This has been...educational, butt this isnt the most controversial thread on the forums. Not as controversial as that Volcano "death scene, in which that thread had 3 pages AND got a lock on it, so it must indeed still be controversial!

Yeah, this really belongs in Off Topic.

soapboxer wrote:: i know you all treat a japanese game as an anime, but you also treat an english game as an A-movie film

What? How does that even... What?

37 Narwhals wrote:

soapboxer wrote:: i know you all treat a japanese game as an anime, but you also treat an english game as an A-movie film

Wat

Oh thank God I wasn't the only one.

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Teh Spike wrote:: Everyone's a critic.

and that's what i don't get

for as long as you make any form of media to go public, it's guaranteed to get negative feedback from someone, whether they are just saying it to be annoying or it's in depth criticism

soapboxer wrote:: and that's what i don't get

for as long as you make any form of media to go public, it's guaranteed to get negative feedback from someone, whether they are just saying it to be annoying or it's in depth criticism

Precisely what are you getting at? Are people not allowed to like or dislike something when it contradicts the majority opinion?

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Ghost Leader wrote:

soapboxer wrote:: and that's what i don't get

for as long as you make any form of media to go public, it's guaranteed to get negative feedback from someone, whether they are just saying it to be annoying or it's in depth criticism

Precisely what are you getting at? Are people not allowed to like or dislike something when it contradicts the majority opinion?

no, you can say what you want, but i don't get why i have to listen to it

you expect every game to be like an A-movie, and if the voice cast is like a B-movie, you give it negative feedback

statistically the odds of me getting away from critics are 100,000,000 to 1, i don't want it in my yahoo search results!

furthermore, people have said "this shit sucks" to every resident evil game just to be annoying

that isn't opinion, it's trolling!

soapboxer wrote:: no, you can say what you want, but i don't get why i have to listen to it

you expect every game to be like an A-movie, and if the voice cast is like a B-movie, you give it negative feedback

statistically the odds of me getting away from critics are 100,000,000 to 1, i don't want it in my yahoo search results!

furthermore, people have said "this shit sucks" to every resident evil game just to be annoying

that isn't opinion, it's trolling!

I really don't understand any of this thread, your point is incoherent and confusing.
So let me get this straight, you hate that people have negative and or constructive opinions towards something that you yourself enjoyed ?
Welcome to the real world kid, not everything is candy and rainbows, everyone has different and therefore harbor different opinions.
So what you're actually trying to create is a very hypocritical system, in where only your opinion matters and others are simply labelled as wrong or "trolling".]
Please leave your ego at the door, take a good hard look at what your saying and how contradictive and hypocritical it really is and simple grow up.
Opinions are subjective, your entitled to your own, just like everyone's entitled theirs.

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soapboxer wrote:: no, you can say what you want, but i don't get why i have to listen to it

you expect every game to be like an A-movie, and if the voice cast is like a B-movie, you give it negative feedback

statistically the odds of me getting away from critics are 100,000,000 to 1, i don't want it in my yahoo search results!

furthermore, people have said "this shit sucks" to every resident evil game just to be annoying

that isn't opinion, it's trolling!

Statistically the odds of pleasing everyone are equally low because everyone has different preferences and expectations. If you go and read people's opinions, some of them are bound to be negative. If you don't want to listen to it, then don't, but don't expect yahoo to censor their opinions for you.

soapboxer wrote:

Teh Spike wrote:: Everyone's a critic.

and that's what i don't get

for as long as you make any form of media to go public, it's guaranteed to get negative feedback from someone, whether they are just saying it to be annoying or it's in depth criticism

I'm not seeing what's so hard to get. Nearly every RE game has sold over a million copies. Are you surprised that a portion of people out of that million doesn't like it?

Are you also surprised when someone doesn't have the same favorite color as you? I like red, but I keep meeting people who tell me they prefer blue. I don't get it, how can they not think red is the best color?

soapboxer wrote:: no, you can say what you want, but i don't get why i have to listen to it

No one is telling you to listen to it. I myself don't listen to critics or others' (well, most others') opinions.

Quote :: you expect every game to be like an A-movie, and if the voice cast is like a B-movie, you give it negative feedback

No, I don't, and no, I don't. I expect high-profile games like Grand Theft Auto and Metal Gear Solid to be like A-movies, sure, but not every game. I give a game negative feedback when I feel its cons outweigh its pros. For example, I don't like RE4, but the voice acting isn't among my list of reasons for doing so.

And just FYI, I like B-movies, especially horror. Hell, the B-list is the best place for horror these days, since Hollywood can't seem to get it right anymore.

Quote :: statistically the odds of me getting away from critics are 100,000,000 to 1, i don't want it in my yahoo search results!

furthermore, people have said "this shit sucks" to every resident evil game just to be annoying

that isn't opinion, it's trolling!

the difference between a good actor and a bad actor Cheese+and+whine

A bad actor? One that fails in every department, and doesn't even try for campy. The kind of actor that just emotionlessly reads lines and maybe performs only a few stunts over the green screen.

(Yeah, Milla Jovovich is pretty bad)

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Mcghie wrote:

soapboxer wrote:: no, you can say what you want, but i don't get why i have to listen to it

you expect every game to be like an A-movie, and if the voice cast is like a B-movie, you give it negative feedback

statistically the odds of me getting away from critics are 100,000,000 to 1, i don't want it in my yahoo search results!

furthermore, people have said "this shit sucks" to every resident evil game just to be annoying

that isn't opinion, it's trolling!

I really don't understand any of this thread, your point is incoherent and confusing.
So let me get this straight, you hate that people have negative and or constructive opinions towards something that you yourself enjoyed ?
Welcome to the real world kid, not everything is candy and rainbows, everyone has different and therefore harbor different opinions.
So what you're actually trying to create is a very hypocritical system, in where only your opinion matters and others are simply labelled as wrong or "trolling".]
Please leave your ego at the door, take a good hard look at what your saying and how contradictive and hypocritical it really is and simple grow up.
Opinions are subjective, your entitled to your own, just like everyone's entitled theirs.

but to call someone a fuckin loser because they don't share the same views as you, that IS trolling

as a matter of fact, should you upload to youtube, no matter what you upload, you are guaranteed to be trolled sooner or later

PWNERX wrote:: A bad actor? One that fails in every department, and doesn't even try for campy. The kind of actor that just emotionlessly reads lines and maybe performs only a few stunts over the green screen.

(Yeah, Milla Jovovich is pretty bad)

surely an actor from a game, cartoon, or film can be no different from your own youtube upload of yourself talking

soapboxer wrote:

Mcghie wrote:

soapboxer wrote:: no, you can say what you want, but i don't get why i have to listen to it

you expect every game to be like an A-movie, and if the voice cast is like a B-movie, you give it negative feedback

statistically the odds of me getting away from critics are 100,000,000 to 1, i don't want it in my yahoo search results!

furthermore, people have said "this shit sucks" to every resident evil game just to be annoying

that isn't opinion, it's trolling!

I really don't understand any of this thread, your point is incoherent and confusing.
So let me get this straight, you hate that people have negative and or constructive opinions towards something that you yourself enjoyed ?
Welcome to the real world kid, not everything is candy and rainbows, everyone has different and therefore harbor different opinions.
So what you're actually trying to create is a very hypocritical system, in where only your opinion matters and others are simply labelled as wrong or "trolling".]
Please leave your ego at the door, take a good hard look at what your saying and how contradictive and hypocritical it really is and simple grow up.
Opinions are subjective, your entitled to your own, just like everyone's entitled theirs.

but to call someone a fuckin loser because they don't share the same views as you, that IS trolling

as a matter of fact, should you upload to youtube, no matter what you upload, you are guaranteed to be trolled sooner or later

PWNERX wrote:: A bad actor? One that fails in every department, and doesn't even try for campy. The kind of actor that just emotionlessly reads lines and maybe performs only a few stunts over the green screen.

(Yeah, Milla Jovovich is pretty bad)

surely an actor from a game, cartoon, or film can be no different from your own youtube upload of yourself talking

I can 1-up Milla because I can do impressions. Good impressions, too. You wanna see my troll impression?

soapboxer wrote:: but to call someone a fuckin loser because they don't share the same views as you, that IS trolling

as a matter of fact, should you upload to youtube, no matter what you upload, you are guaranteed to be trolled sooner or later

What has YouTube got to do with anything ?
Critique is critique, no matter what medium it's from.
Furthermore you're making a huge generalizing of the whole matter and blowing it up to be bigger than it is.
If someone likes something, then they will like it.
If someone doesn't like it then they wont, but either side can give an honest opinion of how they feel towards something.
Whether it be a civil comment or otherwise.
That's just life, you can't take others views so seriously and you have to take the internet with a pinch of salt, there is a lot of hate out their.
If you are so concerned about said "trolling" then just leave them (if they are actually generally trolling), if you react and get all giddy over their "trolling" then
that means they have gained a victory over you because they do it for attention or to piss you off, so if you get mad or even simply try to strike up debate with them then
they have won, in their own little sad way.
Although I only say this towards genuine "trolling", you can't drastically label someone that has the opposite opinion of yours a "troll" even if that person is writing
a hate filled or anger fueled review, as this person isn't trolling but merely angered and unhappy with whatever it is he/she is writing about.

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soapboxer wrote:: but to call someone a fuckin loser because they don't share the same views as you, that IS trolling

There will always be people like that. You just have to let it go in one ear and out the other. The Internet makes it easy for people to do and say things that in real life they wouldn't have the guts to, or get their asses beat if they did.

Quote :: as a matter of fact, should you upload to youtube, no matter what you upload, you are guaranteed to be trolled sooner or later

Like we've been saying, this is the Internet we're talking about.

Quote :: surely an actor from a game, cartoon, or film can be no different from your own youtube upload of yourself talking

It depends on what he's talking about. If he's expressing his thoughts on something like Apartheid or the Macedonia naming dispute, then it's quite different. Another difference is it's unlikely he would get paid an obscene amount of money for talking on YouTube regardless of what he's talking about.

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