What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?

Monster Mash wrote:

Well I have a PS#, so I don't think that'll work on my game.

Then press whatever button that calls for help.

RaviorStygian wrote:

Monster Mash wrote:

The only two major complaints was that if an enemy grabs you, she waits a few seconds before helping you, and she sometimes does not immediately heal you when you go into dying mode, which is not an option in pro mode.

If you press B when grabbed she'll immediately help you.

I hate how she chooses to use a handgun over everything if she has ammo for it.

And this, ladies and gentleman, is why I never use an AI partner. I ALWAYS have someone to go Co-Op.

RaviorStygian wrote:

Monster Mash wrote:

The only two major complaints was that if an enemy grabs you, she waits a few seconds before helping you, and she sometimes does not immediately heal you when you go into dying mode, which is not an option in pro mode.

If you press B when grabbed she'll immediately help you.

I hate how she chooses to use a handgun over everything if she has ammo for it.

yes, i figured that out the hard way. i used to get sopissed off how she would take her friggin time saving me.

but yeah, just press the button and its immediate.

The thing with Sheva is she just felt so thrown-in. There is no way to have any connection with her. She has a boring back-story and really didn't add anything to the mix story-wise for RE5. I still think that Chris and Jill were meant to finish off Wesker.

Bub537 wrote:

The thing with Sheva is she just felt so thrown-in. There is no way to have any connection with her. She has a boring back-story and really didn't add anything to the mix story-wise for RE5. I still think that Chris and Jill were meant to finish off Wesker.

I personally wished it was Rebecca.

What if Barry, Rebecca, Jill, and Chris all shot rockets at him?

But yeah I agree Sheva's background was pretty boring. Her parents were killed by B.O.W.'s. Wonder how long it took them to come up with that. :\ I personally think it would have been better if she was doing this to protect a loved one, like a little brother or sister.

Bub537 wrote:

The thing with Sheva is she just felt so thrown-in. There is no way to have any connection with her. She has a boring back-story and really didn't add anything to the mix story-wise for RE5. I still think that Chris and Jill were meant to finish off Wesker.

not that you just said anything i havent said a thousand times on here, but hell yeah.

i mean i the later parts of the game, she just became more irrelevant.

Spike991 wrote:

Bub537 wrote:

The thing with Sheva is she just felt so thrown-in. There is no way to have any connection with her. She has a boring back-story and really didn't add anything to the mix story-wise for RE5. I still think that Chris and Jill were meant to finish off Wesker.

not that you just said anything i havent said a thousand times on here, but hell yeah.

Well I've never seen your viewpoint on here before. Excuse me for sharing the same opinion as you.

I just wanted to reiterate something and make another couple of points:

Since my post, I have read a few more mentions of Sheva basically being an idiot.

Firstly, I have been in a situation where Sheva wasn't immediately there for Chris when he was grappled or bleeding out, but I found that using the command button to call out for help, she is always right there to help out and rarely doesn't make it in time. Some people say you shouldn't have to do that with good AI; while the perfect team would be able to just know, "Ok, I need to help him/her now!", they wanted to emphasize teamwork on a different level with this game. They want you to acknowledge your partner, to ask for help, to compliment your partner's accomplishments (headshots, combos, etc...) and thus the response time to save your dying character or release you from a grapple is dramatically improved when you call out to your partner for help. Also, as I mentioned in detail in my previous post on this same topic, you can build a bond with your partner (though I don't think there is an option to see the progress level), that as it gets stronger, your partner becomes a greater sidekick. This is evident by the trophy you get after building your relationship to a certain level. I actually like this detail thrown in there - it reflects a real life situation where a partnership of strangers who take everything for granted is not as affective as a partnership of true friends who compliment, thank and encourage each other.

Secondly, you cannot blame Sheva and say she's an idiot for the AI for not helping out or using only the handgun:

1) She prioritizes her handgun in Cover Mode. When you tap the circle button, Chris calls out, "Come on!", that puts her into Cover Mode - some people use it just to get her to move closer without paying attention to the fact that she maintains that behvior. You have to hold the button down, press up, then release circle in which Chris calls out, "Go!", which puts Sheva into Attack Mode. AGAIN, it is because you keep Sheva in Cover Mode that she prioritizes a handgun and dismisses just any opportunity to kill an enemy...because she is COVERING you. If you fire at an enemy in Cover Mode, Sheva will join you and will be quicker to respond (because she is closer most of the time) to help in a grapple struggle or Dying Mode. If you want Sheva to use the greater weapons in her inventory and to take the initiative to kill on her own, put her in Attack Mode!

2) Play the game as Sheva after beating it...Chris responds in EXACTLY the same way as Sheva does when you play as Chris. She's not an idiot or worthless, there are just people who don't care to get into the game and play as a team. Those of you who play multiplayer know what I'm talking about...one of the most common things I get messaged is how great it is to have someone who actually plays as a true partner. If people expect to have a great partner in Sheva while playing single player, then those people need to play as a great partner on their part as well. The AI is better than is given credit for. Thank her for her help, help her when she needs it and even if she isn't desperate [heal her when her health is low even if she isn't dying (if you can afford to spare a healing item) and give her items (ammo, herbs, weapons, etc) often], thank her when she gives you items (including after you've requested the item), and compliment her headshots and team combos.

Now, as for a boring back-story...what? Maybe I'm biased, but I'm pretty sure she has one of the richest back-stories. It isn't something like "Yep. She's a bad ass ex-cop and she kills things very good and stuff. Now she fights because she's bad ass."

Lupus Caelestis wrote:

Let's just hope nothing strange happens where the rites are passed on to another company who would screw it up

I can bet Capcom would never sell the rights to this franchise to another company, if that's what you mean. It brings so much money to them they'd be insane to give it up.

Oh, another hilarious (not) thing happened to me playing Chapter 5-3 on Veteran. I was up to the Wesker and Jill battle, after OWNING Wesker with my Infinite Rocket Launcher, I was up to the Jill 'battle'. I was, however, semi-injured in the previous fight and was on Orange health. Jill shot me with her VZ61's of ultimate doom, and I was dying. Sheva thought it'd be fun to watch me bleed to death. I died. Oh, and Sheva was on Cover mode. And, I also had the achievement.

Monster Mash wrote:

Cyberote wrote:

I'm kinda in-between with Sheva. The AI annoys me and it REALLY ticks me off that she helped Chris kill Wesker instead of Jill who's sitting RIGHT THERE. I mean don't you think Jill deserves to take one last crack at the guy for using her as his puppet and making her attack Chris? Sheva had no right over Jill to kill him. What was Capcom thinking? Yeah let's just let the new girl take out the series' longest-running villain.

I do agree with you on this, although Jill did toss them the rocket launchers. Also, Sheva's parents were killed during an Umbrella experiment, so she had every right to kill Wesker as Jill did.

Yeah but she wasn't directly affiliated with Wesker like Jill and Chris were. He blackmailed their friend Barry, betrayed all of them and nearly had them killed by the Tyrant, he beat the crap out of Chris and Claire in Code Veronica, beat the hell out of both Chris and Jill in LiN and he pretty much kidnapped Jill and made her beat the hell out of Chris. I think Jill had more right than Sheva.

It would have been hilarious if Irving somehow mutated further and grew wings and had a lava immunity and flew in to bite Wesker's head off.

"I GOT ANOTHER EXTREME MAKE OVAH!"

mash, no. sheva but herself into wesker's plans and stuck around when she had nothing to do with anything, she didnt have any right.

If Wesker didn't want Sheva butting into his plans, he shouldn't have helped to bring about the near-genocide of her people; remember that that was initially her main reason for wanting to continue to press forward. Remember that it was Wesker who gave Tricell the original plaga sample. For all we know, some of the majini that she killed might have been people that she'd known. I've already mentioned that it was Umbrella's experimentations which led to the death of her parents; Wesker may not have been directly involved with that, but he was high up in Umbrella and undoubtedly knew about him. She had just as much right to kill Wesker as the other characters.

bullshit. you must be an idiot if you really believe that this shitty character who appeared in her first game, didnt know wesker or didnt even see him until later in the game had as much reason to kill him as someone like chris who was there with him in re1.

Spike991 wrote:

bullshit. you must be an idiot if you really believe that this shitty character who appeared in her first game, didnt know wesker or didnt even see him until later in the game had as much reason to kill him as someone like chris who was there with him in re1.

You hit the nail on the head.

I would have preferred if Jill had been the one with Chris to blow up Wesker, but from the standpoint of the storyline, there's nothing wrong with it being Sheva. She didn't know him, but he had destroyed her life just as much as she had Chris and Jill's. And I fail to see how she's a "shitty character." Personally, I found Steve to be far worse.

Steve was WAY better than Sheva bro. At least he meant something to Claire. They definitely had a bond of some sort.

Bub537 wrote:

Steve was WAY better than Sheva bro. At least he meant something to Claire. They definitely had a bond of some sort.

Steve was an awesome character. I don't care what anybody says.

Monster Mash wrote:

I would have preferred if Jill had been the one with Chris to blow up Wesker, but from the standpoint of the storyline, there's nothing wrong with it being Sheva. She didn't know him, but he had destroyed her life just as much as she had Chris and Jill's. And I fail to see how she's a "shitty character." Personally, I found Steve to be far worse.

maybe i just dont take nicelt to a character being forced down my fucking throat for stupid reasons.

that said, while steve was whiny, we got to know him throughout the game. it was usually a treat to see him in cvx.

who cares about sheva's stupid backstory that we pretty much have to read about, which is going way out of the way in the Files.

we get to see and enjoy chris and jill's experiences with him. no way that even comes close to comparing. its beyond me why any logical re fan would even entertain such a ridiculous idea...

How can anyone not like Steve?

I don't know why, I just love his character.

I didn't really care for her that much to be honest.

I hated steve when I first saw him, he was hitting on my claire lol.

I didnt hate sheva but I didnt like having her always with me. It should have been like ada, shery, rebecca, barry, or carlos where you run into them from time to time. Also she should have been all about getting revenge on wesker and tricell with chris finding out more info on her from talking to her when they would meet each time and reading files on computers or finding notes.

I still fail to see how Sheva has as much of a right to kill Wesker than the two people who got F'd over the most by him in the series. I doubt Wesker was directly involved with her people dying.

Another thing I hate about Sheva is that even after crow lady's mask came off and showed that it was Jill, Sheva STILL shot at her!

And I hate Steve because he acts like a horny 10 year-old with daddy issues. He does nothing but stare at Claire's ass and get himself into stupid situations. Seriously dude, quit being an idiot and just put the damn lugers back!

Cyberote wrote:

I still fail to see how Sheva has as much of a right to kill Wesker than the two people who got F'd over the most by him in the series. I doubt Wesker was directly involved with her people dying.

Another thing I hate about Sheva is that even after crow lady's mask came off and showed that it was Jill, Sheva STILL shot at her!

And I hate Steve because he acts like a horny 10 year-old with daddy issues. He does nothing but stare at Claire's ass and get himself into stupid situations. Seriously dude, quit being an idiot and just put the damn lugers back!

Agreed. I mean, I've only seen bits and pieces of CV/X/HD. But I get the feeling I'm going to 'accidentally' get killed numerous times when having to play as him. When I'm not playing as him, I pray to find his mutilated corpse.

Speaking of CVX, only two days to go!!!