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Pau Diaz Zombie
Posts : 173 Join date : 2013-09-29 Age : 41 Location : Gerona, Spain
| Subject: A change in the nature of the virus. Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:09 pm | |
| From what I have seen, and read about RE6, the C-Virus has managed to do something that I didn't think a virus was capable of. A virus typically feeds on one type of cell, be it liver or lung, in order to propagate. The T-Virus has always used the cells of the frontal lobe to reproduce, which turns its victims into zombies. Now, in the case of the C-Virus, it consumes a large amount, but not all of the frontal lobe cells. It eats the ones that control personality, emotions and higher reasoning, but leaves the ones that govern basic intelligence intact. Tool use and rudimentary understanding remain intact.
Why does the C-Virus not need to feed on so many of the frontal lobe cells? |
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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 32 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:32 pm | |
| Because zombies don't and can't exist. We're talking fiction here right? |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:38 pm | |
| Considering how the G-virus apparently causes massive generation of living tissue in hosts, T-Veronica gives people pyrokinetic powers and T/G makes a man turn into a woman with the ability to shoot lightning... This is the thing that concerns you the most? |
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PWNERX Leech Zombie
PWNER-XIII Steam : pwner_xiii Posts : 2156 Join date : 2013-01-04 Age : 27 Location : On the Edge of Reality
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:43 pm | |
| T-Virus turns Fleas into Giant monstrosities and men into 8 ft. tall beasts with giant, left handed claws and gigantic indestructible hearts....yet kinda stupid. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:18 pm | |
| - PWNERX wrote:
- T-Virus turns Fleas into Giant monstrosities and men into 8 ft. tall beasts with giant, left handed claws and gigantic indestructible hearts....yet kinda stupid.
That flea thing, sure, but tyrants were genetically engineered. The virus in itself didn't do the transformation. |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:56 pm | |
| Plus, the heart is the tyrant's main weakness. Which is why RE0 should have given us the ability to free aim. |
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Pau Diaz Zombie
Posts : 173 Join date : 2013-09-29 Age : 41 Location : Gerona, Spain
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:46 am | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- Considering how the G-virus apparently causes massive generation of living tissue in hosts, T-Veronica gives people pyrokinetic powers and T/G makes a man turn into a woman with the ability to shoot lightning... This is the thing that concerns you the most?
A good point. Let´s look address the subject in a different way. I have a keen interest in biology and I have the understanding that viruses don't consume a selective number of cells. They consume as many of them as they can in order to survive. How, then, was the C-Virus engineered in such a way that it would enable some of the frontal lobe cells to remain unaffected? Why did T-Veronica allow Alexia´s personality and intelligence to remain undamaged? |
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PWNERX Leech Zombie
PWNER-XIII Steam : pwner_xiii Posts : 2156 Join date : 2013-01-04 Age : 27 Location : On the Edge of Reality
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:29 am | |
| Everything reacts like "OH SH*T" To the m66 MRL in RE1...except Chimera's. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:09 am | |
| - Pau Diaz wrote:
- Mass Distraction wrote:
- Considering how the G-virus apparently causes massive generation of living tissue in hosts, T-Veronica gives people pyrokinetic powers and T/G makes a man turn into a woman with the ability to shoot lightning... This is the thing that concerns you the most?
A good point. Let´s look address the subject in a different way. I have a keen interest in biology and I have the understanding that viruses don't consume a selective number of cells. They consume as many of them as they can in order to survive. How, then, was the C-Virus engineered in such a way that it would enable some of the frontal lobe cells to remain unaffected? Why did T-Veronica allow Alexia´s personality and intelligence to remain undamaged? Why did Morpheus' personality and intelligence remain undamaged? How about Albert? Manuela? Dr. Cameron? Simmons? Carla? Piers? Steve, in the end? Hell, I could even throw in the Merchant, Salazar, Bitores and Saddler, even though they were affected by a parasite instead of a virus. I would like to say because of sheer force of will and compatibility with the virus but let's be honest, in most cases it's just so we could have a terrifying boss character to face. - PWNERX wrote:
- Everything reacts like "OH SH*T" To the m66 MRL in RE1...except Chimera's.
What on earth are you talking about? Chimeras are easy to kill with literally everything. Enemy reactions to weaponry are debatable too. |
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Pau Diaz Zombie
Posts : 173 Join date : 2013-09-29 Age : 41 Location : Gerona, Spain
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:41 pm | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- Pau Diaz wrote:
- Mass Distraction wrote:
- Considering how the G-virus apparently causes massive generation of living tissue in hosts, T-Veronica gives people pyrokinetic powers and T/G makes a man turn into a woman with the ability to shoot lightning... This is the thing that concerns you the most?
A good point. Let´s look address the subject in a different way. I have a keen interest in biology and I have the understanding that viruses don't consume a selective number of cells. They consume as many of them as they can in order to survive. How, then, was the C-Virus engineered in such a way that it would enable some of the frontal lobe cells to remain unaffected? Why did T-Veronica allow Alexia´s personality and intelligence to remain undamaged? Why did Morpheus' personality and intelligence remain undamaged? How about Albert? Manuela? Dr. Cameron? Simmons? Carla? Piers? Steve, in the end? Hell, I could even throw in the Merchant, Salazar, Bitores and Saddler, even though they were affected by a parasite instead of a virus. I would like to say because of sheer force of will and compatibility with the virus but let's be honest, in most cases it's just so we could have a terrifying boss character to face.
- PWNERX wrote:
- Everything reacts like "OH SH*T" To the m66 MRL in RE1...except Chimera's.
What on earth are you talking about? Chimeras are easy to kill with literally everything. Enemy reactions to weaponry are debatable too. Compatibility, as in the virus merges with the brain cells instead of destroying them. In this case, how does the virus sustain itself? Why are the frontal lobe cells destroyed with the non-compatible hosts? |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:40 pm | |
| I am fairly certain not even the developers think things this hard. It's fiction, afterall. |
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PWNERX Leech Zombie
PWNER-XIII Steam : pwner_xiii Posts : 2156 Join date : 2013-01-04 Age : 27 Location : On the Edge of Reality
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:54 pm | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- Pau Diaz wrote:
- Mass Distraction wrote:
- Considering how the G-virus apparently causes massive generation of living tissue in hosts, T-Veronica gives people pyrokinetic powers and T/G makes a man turn into a woman with the ability to shoot lightning... This is the thing that concerns you the most?
A good point. Let´s look address the subject in a different way. I have a keen interest in biology and I have the understanding that viruses don't consume a selective number of cells. They consume as many of them as they can in order to survive. How, then, was the C-Virus engineered in such a way that it would enable some of the frontal lobe cells to remain unaffected? Why did T-Veronica allow Alexia´s personality and intelligence to remain undamaged? Why did Morpheus' personality and intelligence remain undamaged? How about Albert? Manuela? Dr. Cameron? Simmons? Carla? Piers? Steve, in the end? Hell, I could even throw in the Merchant, Salazar, Bitores and Saddler, even though they were affected by a parasite instead of a virus. I would like to say because of sheer force of will and compatibility with the virus but let's be honest, in most cases it's just so we could have a terrifying boss character to face.
- PWNERX wrote:
- Everything reacts like "OH SH*T" To the m66 MRL in RE1...except Chimera's.
What on earth are you talking about? Chimeras are easy to kill with literally everything. Enemy reactions to weaponry are debatable too. Dark environment, ceiling-bound creatures that deal tons of damage, vs a rocket launcher that hits anything...touching the ground, or at least lunging at you. Hmm... |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:51 pm | |
| - PWNERX wrote:
- Dark environment, ceiling-bound creatures that deal tons of damage, vs a rocket launcher that hits anything...touching the ground, or at least lunging at you. Hmm...
That hardly has anything to do with their behavior upon facing a rocket launcher. |
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RebelliousQueen Government Official
Soulful-Decoder8 Steam : Missy Claire Gaming Posts : 2973 Join date : 2012-02-21 Age : 31 Location : Manila, Philippines
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:45 pm | |
| - PWNERX wrote:
- T-Virus turns Fleas into Giant monstrosities and men into 8 ft. tall beasts with giant, left handed claws and gigantic indestructible hearts....yet kinda stupid.
T-virus is so much better than Simmon's C-virus. |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:39 pm | |
| - Miss Claire Redfield wrote:
- PWNERX wrote:
- T-Virus turns Fleas into Giant monstrosities and men into 8 ft. tall beasts with giant, left handed claws and gigantic indestructible hearts....yet kinda stupid.
T-virus is so much better than Simmon's C-virus. In terms of deadlines, yes. When it comes to the T-Virus, one bite and you're done for unless you can find a cure. I don't think 7 will have either the C or T Viurs since both have vaccines for them. What's next? The W virus? |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:07 am | |
| - Nobudy wrote:
- Miss Claire Redfield wrote:
- PWNERX wrote:
- T-Virus turns Fleas into Giant monstrosities and men into 8 ft. tall beasts with giant, left handed claws and gigantic indestructible hearts....yet kinda stupid.
T-virus is so much better than Simmon's C-virus. In terms of deadlines, yes. When it comes to the T-Virus, one bite and you're done for unless you can find a cure. I don't think 7 will have either the C or T Viurs since both have vaccines for them. What's next? The W virus? What would the "W" stand for? Wesker? |
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PWNERX Leech Zombie
PWNER-XIII Steam : pwner_xiii Posts : 2156 Join date : 2013-01-04 Age : 27 Location : On the Edge of Reality
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:49 am | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- Nobudy wrote:
- Miss Claire Redfield wrote:
- PWNERX wrote:
- T-Virus turns Fleas into Giant monstrosities and men into 8 ft. tall beasts with giant, left handed claws and gigantic indestructible hearts....yet kinda stupid.
T-virus is so much better than Simmon's C-virus. In terms of deadlines, yes. When it comes to the T-Virus, one bite and you're done for unless you can find a cure. I don't think 7 will have either the C or T Viurs since both have vaccines for them. What's next? The W virus? What would the "W" stand for? Wesker? Seemingly, only some unlucky few that are bitten and scratched up (I.E. Marvin) are turned after being eaten by a monster. Also, anyone else is infected and bound to turn from direct injection, exposure to it's gaseous state, or happen to eat/drink tainted stuff. |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:43 pm | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- Nobudy wrote:
- Miss Claire Redfield wrote:
- PWNERX wrote:
- T-Virus turns Fleas into Giant monstrosities and men into 8 ft. tall beasts with giant, left handed claws and gigantic indestructible hearts....yet kinda stupid.
T-virus is so much better than Simmon's C-virus. In terms of deadlines, yes. When it comes to the T-Virus, one bite and you're done for unless you can find a cure. I don't think 7 will have either the C or T Viurs since both have vaccines for them. What's next? The W virus? What would the "W" stand for? Wesker? Lol yeah. A virus created by Alex Wesker. @PWNERX: Which is why I still think the T-Virus is more deadly. But since there's a vaccine, it's not a major threat anymore. |
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PWNERX Leech Zombie
PWNER-XIII Steam : pwner_xiii Posts : 2156 Join date : 2013-01-04 Age : 27 Location : On the Edge of Reality
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:33 pm | |
| - Nobudy wrote:
- Mass Distraction wrote:
- Nobudy wrote:
- Miss Claire Redfield wrote:
- PWNERX wrote:
- T-Virus turns Fleas into Giant monstrosities and men into 8 ft. tall beasts with giant, left handed claws and gigantic indestructible hearts....yet kinda stupid.
T-virus is so much better than Simmon's C-virus. In terms of deadlines, yes. When it comes to the T-Virus, one bite and you're done for unless you can find a cure. I don't think 7 will have either the C or T Viurs since both have vaccines for them. What's next? The W virus? What would the "W" stand for? Wesker? Lol yeah. A virus created by Alex Wesker.
@PWNERX: Which is why I still think the T-Virus is more deadly. But since there's a vaccine, it's not a major threat anymore. Hmm, Several factories housing T-Virus Vaccinations destroyed shortly after Terorrist T-Virus attack on multiple Cities... |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:39 pm | |
| - PWNERX wrote:
- Nobudy wrote:
- Mass Distraction wrote:
- Nobudy wrote:
- Miss Claire Redfield wrote:
- PWNERX wrote:
- T-Virus turns Fleas into Giant monstrosities and men into 8 ft. tall beasts with giant, left handed claws and gigantic indestructible hearts....yet kinda stupid.
T-virus is so much better than Simmon's C-virus. In terms of deadlines, yes. When it comes to the T-Virus, one bite and you're done for unless you can find a cure. I don't think 7 will have either the C or T Viurs since both have vaccines for them. What's next? The W virus? What would the "W" stand for? Wesker? Lol yeah. A virus created by Alex Wesker.
@PWNERX: Which is why I still think the T-Virus is more deadly. But since there's a vaccine, it's not a major threat anymore. Hmm, Several factories housing T-Virus Vaccinations destroyed shortly after Terorrist T-Virus attack on multiple Cities... Close, but as long as the citizens are vaccinated, there won't be too much of a problem. |
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Pau Diaz Zombie
Posts : 173 Join date : 2013-09-29 Age : 41 Location : Gerona, Spain
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:32 am | |
| I've come to the conclusion that the zombie, human, dog, lion and other members of the mammalian family, are subjects that rejects the T-virus. Their immune system either cannot cope with the properties of the virus, so the cells are destroyed by the virus because the physiology of mammal species is too difficult for the virus to adapt to.
What changes are made to the genetically engineered viruses or test subjects to prevent the kind decay and loss of intelligence in humanoid or animal specimens that the unaltered T-Virus causes? |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:17 am | |
| We aren't exactly biologists nor do we have a degree of virology. Maybe you should ask from someone who is or just mail the developers?
I'm here just to kill the zombies, not study them. Actually, you should ask Four-Eyes. |
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Pau Diaz Zombie
Posts : 173 Join date : 2013-09-29 Age : 41 Location : Gerona, Spain
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:45 am | |
| All right, I'll give Capcom unity a buzz. They might be able to help me. One thing we could discuss is Sherry. She retained the regenerative properties of the G-Virus, even though Devil was supposed to have filtered it out of her system. How come the vaccine didn't work entirely and how did part of the virus survive inside Sherry for so many years? |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:57 am | |
| It might again come to the whole discussion of human compatibility with the viruses. The rest of the virus left in her body bonded with her. Same happened with Jill and the T-virus. |
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AWDCP RPD Officer
IceFireWarden Steam : IceFireWarden Posts : 354 Join date : 2013-01-17 Age : 27 Location : Kansas City, Kansas
| Subject: Re: A change in the nature of the virus. Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:23 pm | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- It might again come to the whole discussion of human compatibility with the viruses. The rest of the virus left in her body bonded with her. Same happened with Jill and the T-virus.
Then what happened to Steve and T-Veronica? I mean, it seemed like the T-Veronica virus causes plant like growth (Alexia) or muscle growth (Steve), or both at the same time, along with pyrokinesis. |
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