NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:02 pm
hobojojo521 wrote:
...but i voted for leon anyway
That makes sense. And when I sense, I mean nonsense. It'd be like if I made a poll of does 2+2=4? Yes or no. And you were like yes, but I voted for no anyway. @Revan: I don't believe the aiming system has anything to do with their shooting abilities. Are you having trouble thinking abstractly?
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:38 pm
NiteKrawler wrote:
@Revan: I don't believe the aiming system has anything to do with their shooting abilities. Are you having trouble thinking abstractly?
And that exactly was my point.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:33 pm
Mass Distraction wrote:
NiteKrawler wrote:
@Revan: I don't believe the aiming system has anything to do with their shooting abilities. Are you having trouble thinking abstractly?
And that exactly was my point.
Man they aim the same. THEY ARE JUST FUCKING COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGES! They have no shooting abilities because they are fake.
The way YOU aim determines how good they are. It is a matter of player. If I am better than you while I play Chris than Chris is better. If I go against someone better than me than Leon is better.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:57 pm
Revan XI9 wrote:
Man they aim the same. THEY ARE JUST FUCKING COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGES! They have no shooting abilities because they are fake.
The way YOU aim determines how good they are. It is a matter of player. If I am better than you while I play Chris than Chris is better. If I go against someone better than me than Leon is better.
Apparently, you are having trouble thinking abstractly. We are trying to decide who is better or "stronger" than the other in a fictional sense. So try to imagine each character as a real person. Think of their backgrounds, and training. Now...who do you think it better?
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:29 pm
NiteKrawler wrote:
Revan XI9 wrote:
Man they aim the same. THEY ARE JUST FUCKING COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGES! They have no shooting abilities because they are fake.
The way YOU aim determines how good they are. It is a matter of player. If I am better than you while I play Chris than Chris is better. If I go against someone better than me than Leon is better.
Apparently, you are having trouble thinking abstractly. We are trying to decide who is better or "stronger" than the other in a fictional sense. So try to imagine each character as a real person. Think of their backgrounds, and training. Now...who do you think it better?
I see. Well.......
I am kinda leaning towards Leon....
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:49 pm
Everyone points to the laser dodge. Well...guess what? It's been done before. In the RE movies. As much as they suck.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:43 am
And One did pretty good at it. Well, until the Queen decided f*** it, lets make a wall of laser beams to kill him.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:55 am
NiteKrawler wrote:
Everyone points to the laser dodge. Well...guess what? It's been done before. In the RE movies. As much as they suck.
It is beginning to sound like you have a grudge against Leon. Did he beat you up as a kid or something? OF COURSE I POINT TO THE LASER DODGE!! What did Chris do like that huh? He punched a boulder until he moved it.
Leon back flipped over an I beam!
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:03 am
Like I said before...Chris could do it too if the programmers wanted him to. He didn't have anything crazy like that happen to prove he could do it in RE5. But if you want to be technical, Chris AND Sheva both survived a stealth jet crash into a volcano. Has Leon? No.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:20 am
NiteKrawler wrote:
Like I said before...Chris could do it too if the programmers wanted him to. He didn't have anything crazy like that happen to prove he could do it in RE5. But if you want to be technical, Chris AND Sheva both survived a stealth jet crash into a volcano. Has Leon? No.
No but...
He did get thrown into a wall
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:14 pm
The only part of that which would hurt would be where he actually got hit by Curtis. The angle at which he hit the floor was horizontal enough to save any pain. He just landed on the floor sliding. And he barely hit that wall. In RE5, Chris took more beatings from Albert than Leon ever has from anyone or anything. And he was just fine.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:57 pm
NiteKrawler wrote:
The only part of that which would hurt would be where he actually got hit by Curtis. The angle at which he hit the floor was horizontal enough to save any pain. He just landed on the floor sliding. And he barely hit that wall. In RE5, Chris took more beatings from Albert than Leon ever has from anyone or anything. And he was just fine.
Well that is true I will give you that.
But my vote is still for Leon. I think he would win.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:03 pm
You still haven't given a good reason for thinking it.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:18 pm
NiteKrawler wrote:
You still haven't given a good reason for thinking it.
He is more Agile than Chris, He can react to unexpected situations very quickly and he has serious knife skill.
Now why would Chris win?
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:22 pm
Revan XI9 wrote:
NiteKrawler wrote:
You still haven't given a good reason for thinking it.
He is more Agile than Chris, He can react to unexpected situations very quickly and he has serious knife skill.
Now why would Chris win?
Chris is definitely physically stronger. Technically, I would argue that Chris has better reactions. Look at RE1 where Yawn strikes at him from near point blank range and Chris still moves out of the way. Not much of anything in the natural world is faster than a snake strike. And remember, Chris has been using a knife far longer than Leon has. And Chris is a professional marksman as well.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:33 pm
Revan XI9 wrote:
NiteKrawler wrote:
You still haven't given a good reason for thinking it.
He is more Agile than Chris, He can react to unexpected situations very quickly and he has serious knife skill.
Now why would Chris win?
I agree that Leon is more agile, and, I want to say... graceful. I say that comparing the laser sequence in RE4 to the part in RE5 Ch. 4-1 I think it was, when Chris and Sheva are running through the hallway and everything is collapsing, and Chris just flops through the falling door. Also, I don't know if this counts, so forgive me if it doesn't, but there was that awesome parkour scene in RE: Degeneration.
All in all, Leon could out run Chris I think, but I don't know about a fight.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:47 pm
Arg...that was not parkour. Parkour is about moving yourself in such a way that you get from point A to point B in the least amount of time as possible. Half of what Leon did in Degeneration was flourishes. He did only two parkour moves. The first two dodges were done in such a way that actually slowed him down a great bit, yet looked nicer. So yes...he is graceful. So is Tinkerbell.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:09 pm
NiteKrawler wrote:
Arg...that was not parkour. Parkour is about moving yourself in such a way that you get from point A to point B in the least amount of time as possible. Half of what Leon did in Degeneration was flourishes. He did only two parkour moves. The first two dodges were done in such a way that actually slowed him down a great bit, yet looked nicer. So yes...he is graceful. So is Tinkerbell.
Yes graceful....Gracefully badass!
It is a game and or a movie. It is meant to be cool. Not parkour.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:34 pm
NiteKrawler wrote:
Arg...that was not parkour. Parkour is about moving yourself in such a way that you get from point A to point B in the least amount of time as possible. Half of what Leon did in Degeneration was flourishes. He did only two parkour moves. The first two dodges were done in such a way that actually slowed him down a great bit, yet looked nicer. So yes...he is graceful. So is Tinkerbell.
Half of parkour is flourishing...
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:53 pm
LEON LEON LEON all the way ...
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:09 pm
Guys, Chris did do a laser dodge himself... It's called Umbrella Chronicles.
What Leon thinks is cool... Chris has already been there done that.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:45 pm
1- Jill with him
2- RE 4 came out to us First !!! hehehehe
so, we saw Leon doing it first
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:31 pm
1.)I didn't see him jump off of Jill's back or her give him a boost so that is a moot point. In fact it would make it harder, less room to maneuver and all....
2.) Timeline wise Umbrella Chronicles "Umbrella's End" takes place BEFORE the events of RE4 so, chronologically Leon copied Chris.
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:26 am
I love this chronology thing
Also took me quite some time to make a chronological list of the games (including the non-canon ones).
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Subject: Re: Who is stronger???!!?? Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:47 pm