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Who's fault do you think it was? | Piers | | 44% | [ 4 ] | Finn | | 0% | [ 0 ] | Both | | 56% | [ 5 ] |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:24 pm | |
| For those of you who did play through Chris' chapter 2 during RE6, you'd remember the death of most of his team at the hands of Carla (a.k.a "Blue Ada"). When Chris, Piers, and Finn run into her for the first time, Chris tells Finn to make sure she's safe. Finn accepts. However, Chris then turns to Piers and directly tells him to "Keep and eye on her." Piers replies with a "Will do Captain." or something like that. At the end, you see Piers disobeying orders just to stand next to Chris in front of everyone rather than watching Carla. Once he notices that she's not there, he directly chews Finn out despite that fact that he was supposed to be keeping a direct watch over her. It might explain why Chris probably wasn't mad at Finn.
While Finn shouldn't have taken all of the blame, his task still has to do with watching out for her. In my opinion, Piers should've taken more of the blame than Finn. Post your thoughts. And vote if you want. |
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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 33 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:06 pm | |
| I'm not entirely sure if it matters who's fault it was; that was purely plot driven. |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:32 pm | |
| - Vandal wrote:
- I'm not entirely sure if it matters who's fault it was; that was purely plot driven.
I never liked parts of the story let alone Chris' not shooting Carla when he had the chance. Reminds me of when Wesker was too busy gloating. As for Piers, I still never understood why he pinned it down on Finn. |
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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 33 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:04 pm | |
| - Nobudy wrote:
- Vandal wrote:
- I'm not entirely sure if it matters who's fault it was; that was purely plot driven.
I never liked parts of the story let alone Chris' not shooting Carla when he had the chance. Reminds me of when Wesker was too busy gloating. As for Piers, I still never understood why he pinned it down on Finn. Well in that section of the game I saw Piers to be a real dick for some reason. It was that chapter alone that took place in the past, nothing else. The consistency of his character is so backwards. |
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Industrial Ridden RPD Officer
Jagerdu Posts : 395 Join date : 2013-01-02 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:41 pm | |
| I never blamed anyone during that scene, I just took it in and enjoyed the hell outta it. But if I had to, it would probably be Piers. He always seemed irritated by Finn anyways for some reason. Maybe he just doesn't like rookies or has some sort of problem with them lol. |
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Ghost Leader Admin
Posts : 4809 Join date : 2008-12-20 Age : 41 Location : Rent-free in Peter Anderson's head
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:20 pm | |
| I haven't played the game and don't plan to, but it sounds to me like the blame should fall on Piers for disobeying an order. Finn was seemingly doing as his CO told him to. |
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PWNERX Leech Zombie
PWNER-XIII Steam : pwner_xiii Posts : 2156 Join date : 2013-01-04 Age : 28 Location : On the Edge of Reality
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:06 am | |
| Piers=Brad Vickers. End of story. |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:28 am | |
| - Vandal wrote:
- Nobudy wrote:
- Vandal wrote:
- I'm not entirely sure if it matters who's fault it was; that was purely plot driven.
I never liked parts of the story let alone Chris' not shooting Carla when he had the chance. Reminds me of when Wesker was too busy gloating. As for Piers, I still never understood why he pinned it down on Finn. Well in that section of the game I saw Piers to be a real dick for some reason. It was that chapter alone that took place in the past, nothing else. The consistency of his character is so backwards. Same here. I guess Chris' consisted of a rookie and the other only being a little higher up that a Rookie, and Piers wanted to feel superior. Sounds a lot like my sister despite only being two years older than me. |
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MSR User BANNED
Screw Sony Posts : 1920 Join date : 2012-12-28
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:01 pm | |
| Carla snuck off in the midst of all the action, it's understandable. Otherwise, the entire team had an opportunity to shoot her down even when the bars closed them in that trap.
I wonder why Piers is so easily offended by Jake in RE6.
I also thought it was funny when Jake was asking Sherry who that guy was that she was all "chubby" with. Referring to Chris. |
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Shrike RPD Officer
Posts : 241 Join date : 2013-04-01 Location : Silent Hill
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:05 pm | |
| The blame should fall on whoever wrote that scene because neither Chris nor Piers shot the goddamn bitch even after she turned all their comrades into BOWs. Kind of reminds me of the scene from Revelations where Parker gets shot by Jessica, but just lets her slowly walk away. What the hell, people...
If I had to answer it would be Piers though. |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:25 pm | |
| - Shrike wrote:
- The blame should fall on whoever wrote that scene because neither Chris nor Piers shot the goddamn bitch even after she turned all their comrades into BOWs. Kind of reminds me of the scene from Revelations where Parker gets shot by Jessica, but just lets her slowly walk away. What the hell, people...
If I had to answer it would be Piers though. Yes! Exactly! Plenty of times in the series where they simply could have just shot the enemy to prevent him/her from continuing with the plan. Barry at leased tried in RE1, but unfortunately, it didn't kill Wesker. |
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Shrike RPD Officer
Posts : 241 Join date : 2013-04-01 Location : Silent Hill
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:50 pm | |
| - Nobudy wrote:
Yes! Exactly! Plenty of times in the series where they simply could have just shot the enemy to prevent him/her from continuing with the plan. Barry at leased tried in RE1, but unfortunately, it didn't kill Wesker. Barry is manly as fuck. He has a beard and a Colt Python. That alone makes him auto-awesome. It's too bad he never really appeared after RE1 in a main game, and I will never forgive Capcom for that. Others unfortunately suffer from plot induced stupidity. |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:19 pm | |
| - Shrike wrote:
- Nobudy wrote:
Yes! Exactly! Plenty of times in the series where they simply could have just shot the enemy to prevent him/her from continuing with the plan. Barry at leased tried in RE1, but unfortunately, it didn't kill Wesker. Barry is manly as fuck. He has a beard and a Colt Python. That alone makes him auto-awesome. It's too bad he never really appeared after RE1 in a main game, and I will never forgive Capcom for that. Others unfortunately suffer from plot induced stupidity. Especially the Chris and Irving interactions. Simply shoot him in the leg and interrogate him. But they wait for him to turn into some monstrous B.O.W before actually fighting him. Kinda like Leon/Salazar. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 34 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:02 am | |
| - Shrike wrote:
- The blame should fall on whoever wrote that scene because neither Chris nor Piers shot the goddamn bitch even after she turned all their comrades into BOWs
People don't seem to think about that scene rationally. First, when they saw Ada (Carla) on the other side why would they have shot her? She was, at first, just standing there. For all they knew, she could have tried to get them out of there. Then she suddenly flings this sphere in the room and disappears. In that moment of confusion there was hardly time to shoot her. It all makes sense if you actually think about it. |
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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 33 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:04 am | |
| Hah. No one is blaming Finn by the votes so far. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 34 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:07 am | |
| - Vandal wrote:
- Hah. No one is blaming Finn by the votes so far.
Some are blaming both so in that way people do blame him. I voted for both myself but mostly the fault was on Piers. |
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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 33 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:12 am | |
| Well no one want to put full blame on the rookie. The rookie who died. |
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Shrike RPD Officer
Posts : 241 Join date : 2013-04-01 Location : Silent Hill
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:58 am | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
People don't seem to think about that scene rationally. First, when they saw Ada (Carla) on the other side why would they have shot her? She was, at first, just standing there. For all they knew, she could have tried to get them out of there. Then she suddenly flings this sphere in the room and disappears. In that moment of confusion there was hardly time to shoot her. It all makes sense if you actually think about it. It wasn't really like that at all. She vanishes, then they are all like "where is she?!" and then she randomly boxes them in (like she had planned it and had the mechanism nobody used in 200 years ready to use against them, but let's ignore that now), smiling at them. They point their guns at her and she is all blablabla (Ada and Carla are the most moronic Mary Sueish characters that ever set foot in RE series) and then she tosses something on them and they don't shoot - first chance. They are military. When you point a gun at someone in a fucking BOW outbreak, you sure ain't going to warn them 100 times (and neither are you going to do in a normal circumstances, but this is way worse). She basically playfully laughs at them for escorting her to there and tosses the object. She infects everyone beside Chris and Piers, who can shoot her at any time, because she is fucking walking like she is in a park, and they STILL don't shoot. Try telling me again that was good writing. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 34 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:05 am | |
| I'd still go with my version. You hate the game, sure go for it. It's just that so many things can be taken into consideration instead of going with the easy-to-hate idea that first pops in mind. I never thought about the scene all that much anyway, it just happened. Even if what you said was 100% truth, so what? The series is like a B-movie, doesn't make all that much sense but it's still enjoyable as hell. |
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Shrike RPD Officer
Posts : 241 Join date : 2013-04-01 Location : Silent Hill
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:12 am | |
| It's cool. You just said that "People don't seem to think about that scene rationally.". I just thought otherwise. It's not like there were things in RE6 that I didn't like. It's true that there wasn't many of those things, though, so yeah, you could say that, for a RE game, I wasn't satisfied with the experience at all. However, if it wasn't a part of a RE serial, it would be an okay game. 7/10. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 34 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:38 am | |
| To be honest, I think you'd be better of by doing the same thing as GL did. Just don't buy any of the new games if there is practically nothing else aside from complaining how badly they sit in the series. I'm not saying this becasue of this thread, it's just the conclusion of my observations on your posts. |
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Shrike RPD Officer
Posts : 241 Join date : 2013-04-01 Location : Silent Hill
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:56 am | |
| How can I know if it will sit well with me if I don't play it? It's like for every other media out there - I hear somebody says it's good, somebody says it's bad. I don't know if I don't try it. If I read a review of how bad it is, I probably won't play it, but since this is RE, one of my favorite games, I will surely at least give it a try. |
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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:39 pm | |
| - Shrike wrote:
- How can I know if it will sit well with me if I don't play it? It's like for every other media out there - I hear somebody says it's good, somebody says it's bad. I don't know if I don't try it. If I read a review of how bad it is, I probably won't play it, but since this is RE, one of my favorite games, I will surely at least give it a try.
You could watch a gameplay video or try out the demo if you want to test it before actually buying. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 34 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:06 am | |
| And since most of the things you have to say about recent RE games is negative the chances are you ain't gonna get that "perfect" RE game. Ever. |
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RebelliousQueen Government Official
Soulful-Decoder8 Steam : Missy Claire Gaming Posts : 2973 Join date : 2012-02-21 Age : 32 Location : Manila, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Who's fault was it really.? *Possible Spoilers* Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:19 am | |
| I really didn't want to choose between them. So I'll go for both of them. Because first of all, Finn instructed by Chris to keep Carla safe. So that means he should be the one to keep an eye on her. But then again, Finn pass it to Piers. He said he'll do it, but he didn't. But instead he still stands behind Chris, he should be doing what Finn's said to him. But still it's not what Chris instructed them to do. Well, I guess both of them had to blame cause the fault is in theirs. |
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