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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:11 am | |
| - ThomVD wrote:
- I expected that everybody would disagree with that one. The fact that everybody does actually kind of proves my point.
That's like saying that if I said 2+2=3 and then everyone disagreed, that it would prove my point. Underrated games are games that are very solid, but don't accrue a proportionate amount of sales or popularity. CoD (MW3 included) is ceaselessly popular, the sales are astronomical, and the games themselves are mostly average. |
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ThomVD Spec Ops Field Unit
ThomVD Posts : 2315 Join date : 2011-07-10 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:23 am | |
| - NiteKrawler wrote:
- That's like saying that if I said 2+2=3 and then everyone disagreed, that it would prove my point.
That is actually completely different... Has nothing to do with things being underrated, unless you would want to prove that 2+2=3 is underrated in that case, which makes no sense. |
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PAULSAMSON STARS Bravo Team
DARIOC2013 Posts : 1726 Join date : 2011-01-19 Age : 34 Location : Argentina
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:24 am | |
| - ThomVD wrote:
- unless you would want to prove that 2+2=3 is underrated in that case, which makes no sense.
It would make sense, there's a song with that title.....and that song is underrated |
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The CG Zombie
Posts : 147 Join date : 2012-04-25 Age : 30 Location : Safe and Sound
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:50 am | |
| - ThomVD wrote:
@The CG: Even though FFIX is my favorite game ever, I disagree with you about it being underrated. The people who actually played it pretty much all love it. The only problem is that not that many people played it. Overlooked is a better word for it. FF9 was sort of a victim of bad timing. The PS2 had just been released and people weren't playing PS1 anymore. It was definitely overlooked. |
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ThomVD Spec Ops Field Unit
ThomVD Posts : 2315 Join date : 2011-07-10 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:54 am | |
| - The CG wrote:
- ThomVD wrote:
@The CG: Even though FFIX is my favorite game ever, I disagree with you about it being underrated. The people who actually played it pretty much all love it. The only problem is that not that many people played it. Overlooked is a better word for it. FF9 was sort of a victim of bad timing. The PS2 had just been released and people weren't playing PS1 anymore. It was definitely overlooked. Indeed, and people also didn't want to play it because they thought it looked cartoony, even though FFVII looked just as, if not more cartoony. |
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The CG Zombie
Posts : 147 Join date : 2012-04-25 Age : 30 Location : Safe and Sound
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:25 pm | |
| - ThomVD wrote:
- The CG wrote:
- ThomVD wrote:
@The CG: Even though FFIX is my favorite game ever, I disagree with you about it being underrated. The people who actually played it pretty much all love it. The only problem is that not that many people played it. Overlooked is a better word for it. FF9 was sort of a victim of bad timing. The PS2 had just been released and people weren't playing PS1 anymore. It was definitely overlooked. Indeed, and people also didn't want to play it because they thought it looked cartoony, even though FFVII looked just as, if not more cartoony. This is a little off topic, but FF9 is actually the only FF game that I've beaten even though I've gotten really far in all of them. FF7 I got to the end but never finished it. |
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ThomVD Spec Ops Field Unit
ThomVD Posts : 2315 Join date : 2011-07-10 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:29 pm | |
| - The CG wrote:
- ThomVD wrote:
- The CG wrote:
- ThomVD wrote:
@The CG: Even though FFIX is my favorite game ever, I disagree with you about it being underrated. The people who actually played it pretty much all love it. The only problem is that not that many people played it. Overlooked is a better word for it. FF9 was sort of a victim of bad timing. The PS2 had just been released and people weren't playing PS1 anymore. It was definitely overlooked. Indeed, and people also didn't want to play it because they thought it looked cartoony, even though FFVII looked just as, if not more cartoony. This is a little off topic, but FF9 is actually the only FF game that I've beaten even though I've gotten really far in all of them. FF7 I got to the end but never finished it. Let's continue the FF talk in PM . |
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Ghost Leader Admin
Posts : 4809 Join date : 2008-12-20 Age : 40 Location : Rent-free in Peter Anderson's head
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:22 pm | |
| - ThomVD wrote:
- It all depends on how you interpret the word "underrated". The word is very vague.
No, it's not. The definition of "underrated" is quite clear and concise. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/underrated?s=tHow anyone can put CoD in the underrated category is mind boggling because it gets consistently perfect or near perfect reviews despite being the exact same game with yearly facelifts every year. It gets far more credit than it really deserves. It's as overrated as overrated can get. |
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SWITCHMYND Hunter
Posts : 1094 Join date : 2012-05-24
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:58 pm | |
| - Ghost Leader wrote:
- ThomVD wrote:
- It all depends on how you interpret the word "underrated". The word is very vague.
No, it's not. The definition of "underrated" is quite clear and concise.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/underrated?s=t
How anyone can put CoD in the underrated category is mind boggling because it gets consistently perfect or near perfect reviews despite being the exact same game with yearly facelifts every year. It gets far more credit than it really deserves. It's as overrated as overrated can get. I don't believe it's over or underrated. |
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Ghost Leader Admin
Posts : 4809 Join date : 2008-12-20 Age : 40 Location : Rent-free in Peter Anderson's head
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:06 pm | |
| - halestride wrote:
- Ghost Leader wrote:
- ThomVD wrote:
- It all depends on how you interpret the word "underrated". The word is very vague.
No, it's not. The definition of "underrated" is quite clear and concise.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/underrated?s=t
How anyone can put CoD in the underrated category is mind boggling because it gets consistently perfect or near perfect reviews despite being the exact same game with yearly facelifts every year. It gets far more credit than it really deserves. It's as overrated as overrated can get. I don't believe it's over or underrated. Like Nite said, the franchise is incredibly popular and always breaking sales records, yet the games aren't really anything all that special in terms of gameplay, story, or even graphics. That's basically a dictionary example of overrated. |
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Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 32 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:12 pm | |
| - halestride wrote:
- I don't believe it's over or underrated.
Really? Only ignorant people say that about Call of Duty. |
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ThomVD Spec Ops Field Unit
ThomVD Posts : 2315 Join date : 2011-07-10 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:51 am | |
| - Ghost Leader wrote:
- yet the games aren't really anything all that special in terms of gameplay, story, or even graphics.
Opinions are opinions. |
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Ghost Leader Admin
Posts : 4809 Join date : 2008-12-20 Age : 40 Location : Rent-free in Peter Anderson's head
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:32 am | |
| - ThomVD wrote:
- Ghost Leader wrote:
- yet the games aren't really anything all that special in terms of gameplay, story, or even graphics.
Opinions are opinions. Except Nite and I both have given you valid reasoning behind ours. You have yet to present anything to counter it. |
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ThomVD Spec Ops Field Unit
ThomVD Posts : 2315 Join date : 2011-07-10 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:11 am | |
| First of all, you can't really win with opinions. They are underrated in my opinion. Obviously not for people who don't like the series.
I gave reasons, I also discussed with Nite on the chat. I won't repeat them every time. And I already said I will stop discussing since we are using the same arguments all the time. If you think you won the discussion because of this, that's fine. |
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chocotricks Hunter
Posts : 1033 Join date : 2011-01-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:39 am | |
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Ghost Leader Admin
Posts : 4809 Join date : 2008-12-20 Age : 40 Location : Rent-free in Peter Anderson's head
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:07 pm | |
| - ThomVD wrote:
- First of all, you can't really win with opinions.
Yes, you can actually. When one is based on valid reasoning and the other is based on faulty logic, the former renders the latter invalid. Therefor, it wins. Victory. - Quote :
- They are underrated in my opinion. Obviously not for people who don't like the series.
Yes, apparently because Internet hate = underrated, but as has been pointed out, that's faulty logic. The definition of underrate is to rate or evaluate something too low. It's not a "vague" word like you tried to claim earlier. You're totally ignoring the fact that CoD virtually never gets anything less than a perfect score, therefor CoD can't be underrated by virtue of the numbers alone. - Quote :
- I gave reasons,
Which are based on faulty logic. - Quote :
- I also discussed with Nite on the chat.
That's all well and good, but I'm not Nite. - Quote :
- And I already said I will stop discussing since we are using the same arguments all the time.
You have yet to dispute my argument with any validity, hence why I'm sticking with it. |
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SWITCHMYND Hunter
Posts : 1094 Join date : 2012-05-24
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:28 pm | |
| - Mercy wrote:
- halestride wrote:
- I don't believe it's over or underrated.
Really? Only ignorant people say that about Call of Duty. I'm not ignorant I just think the game is out there. |
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Valentine Fan Crimson Head
Posts : 668 Join date : 2012-05-28 Age : 28 Location : Arklay Mountains, Spencer Mansion, 1F
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:36 pm | |
| - halestride wrote:
- Mercy wrote:
- halestride wrote:
- I don't believe it's over or underrated.
Really? Only ignorant people say that about Call of Duty. I'm not ignorant I just think the game is out there. It's completely overrated. Every time a new one comes out its all 'ZOMFG THIS IS THE BEST THING EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and its really just asinine. It's not great, its a game with an extremely repeatitive gameplay, a terrible storyline, and the only thing that changes from game to game is the graphics |
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SWITCHMYND Hunter
Posts : 1094 Join date : 2012-05-24
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:38 pm | |
| - Valentine Fan wrote:
- halestride wrote:
- Mercy wrote:
- halestride wrote:
- I don't believe it's over or underrated.
Really? Only ignorant people say that about Call of Duty. I'm not ignorant I just think the game is out there. It's completely overrated. Every time a new one comes out its all 'ZOMFG THIS IS THE BEST THING EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and its really just asinine. It's not great, its a game with an extremely repeatitive gameplay, a terrible storyline, and the only thing that changes from game to game is the graphics say what you want lol but at lease you don't play games with me so you don't have to worry about it lol like my parents say. What you said is pretty much the same thing my step mom says. |
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Ghost Leader Admin
Posts : 4809 Join date : 2008-12-20 Age : 40 Location : Rent-free in Peter Anderson's head
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:44 pm | |
| - halestride wrote:
- What you said is pretty much the same thing my step mom says.
She sounds pretty smart. |
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SWITCHMYND Hunter
Posts : 1094 Join date : 2012-05-24
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:50 pm | |
| - Ghost Leader wrote:
- halestride wrote:
- What you said is pretty much the same thing my step mom says.
She sounds pretty smart. Lol she is but she doesn't like military games anyway so :/ |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:48 am | |
| I'm only going to say one more thing on this. Thom, you say that CoD is underrated because you only see hate for it. By your logic, if you only hung around CoD fan sites and everyone liked it, it would not be underrated. That's where your logic fails. |
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ThomVD Spec Ops Field Unit
ThomVD Posts : 2315 Join date : 2011-07-10 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:49 am | |
| Ok, maybe underrated is the wrong word. How about over-hated, if that word even exist. But yeah, you get my point. |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:59 am | |
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PAULSAMSON STARS Bravo Team
DARIOC2013 Posts : 1726 Join date : 2011-01-19 Age : 34 Location : Argentina
| Subject: Re: Games You Feel Were Under-rated? Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:19 pm | |
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