Krauser Or Hunk?

Mcghie wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

Mcghie wrote:

We haven't yet got to see him as a lone character yet.

What exactly do you mean by that? He was pretty alone in 4th Survivor.

That was just a mini game though.
What I was meaning is that he has never been a character in the main story like Leon or Claire etc

Ah, that's what I thought. True, I'd like to see him in a big role too. On the other hand I still wouldn't want his mystery to be ruined by too much storyline.

I think Krauser could pretty much own HUNK. HUNK has his Mr. Death reputation because he's always coming back from his missions as the only survivor. But that's not really impressive. Leon survived a zombie outbreak as a rookie cop and made it out alive with Claire and Sherry. That's no different from what HUNK does. HUNK is just like anybody else in the series and Krauser has proven to be more lethal. He has a military background and he's superhuman.

Mcghie wrote:

@Turo602 - Please dont be another Leon fanboy :/ .

Leon fanboy? Because I used him as an example?

Mcghie wrote:

They only done all that because they had to, that was the hand they where dealt and they adapted to the situation and fought to survive.

That's more credible than being a skilled soldier and surviving.

Mcghie wrote:

Krauser needs to cheat and use super human ability's, plus if Leon can deafeat Krauser then it will be a cake walk for HUNK.

Cheater or not Krauser is what he is. Therefore he can kill a guy like HUNK. And just because Leon defeated Krauser doesn't mean HUNK can. THAT, should tell you something about Leon.

Not to disturb you guys in your circle jerk of HUNK awesomeness, but the fact that he, as you say, did not depend on luck, but is considered to have it all done by himself is not evidence for awesomeness, but for an underdeveloped character. As Mass correctly implied: as soon as he were given more attention, story-wise, and thus more character credibility, you would, for the sake of an ecxiting plot, see him in situations of vulnerabilty, he would show signs of weakness – and the idealization would be destroyed.

Mcghie wrote:

That to me shows a real tough ass.

That to me shows a rather soft brain.

Mcghie wrote:

No not because you used him as an example but because you came off like you where.
That does not give them more credibility, look at all the other stuff HUNKS done.
Leon and Claire just got lucky to be honest.
Look at STARS, they are a skilled special force unit did where they only "surviving"
HUNK had managed to fight for survival for a week after being injured by Birken and THEN battled against the odds just to complete a mission
that he could have just abandoned instead of risking his life for his superiors.
That to me shows a real tough ass.
Please explain how he can kill a guy like HUNK when he got beaten by Leon
even though Leon was an operative for the government he is still a rookie in skill level compared to HUNK.

Your entitled to your opinion on HUNK vs Krauser but saying that Leon and Claire have done better than HUNK is clearly ridiculous

What if I was a Leon fanboy? Should I be bothered that you're a HUNK fanboy? It's not right to judge one based on a character they like.

Luck has nothing to do with what Leon and Claire went through. Luck doesn't exist. Leon is a hero in the Resident Evil series. You have to advance in the game, don't you? Of course he can defeat Krauser. If HUNK were in that role he'd get owned as well. And because of that, Leon is already superior to HUNK. Being the hero is all it takes. That, and Leon has pretty much proven himself more worthy in RE4. Even Chris and Jill.

Because Leon is simply better than both HUNK and Krauser. And Leon has certainly done better than HUNK but I wouldn't go as far as Claire.

Okay, sweet lord guys, what's going on here?

I will TRY to make sense out of this. The point here is that HUNK is a trained mercenary, the best of the best. He is skilled enough to always come on top and survive whatever the odds. He even ended up training Vector who seems to be rather skilled himself. Umbrella seems to have had a tendency on sending him on the most difficult of missions because they knew he'd succeed. Now let's get to Leon. During his time in the RPD (the one and only day) he was still a rookie. By luck and the help from Ada he managed to survive. He is also a natural survivor so he made it. After that he got enrolled in the secret agent business and by years of training he has achieved the top spot in the US government agency. Nowadays his skills might be on par with HUNK's so yeah, they both could've taken on Krauser. Back in Raccoon HUNK might've killed him if it was his mission. Nobody knows what HUNK is up to now but my best guess is that he's still working as a mercenary.




@Trichos: I do agree with your point. If he was given some kind of sad weepy backstory or something to that extent it'd kinda ruin the mystery.

I just don't see HUNK having a very interesting backstory anyway. He became a mercenary, dedicated his life to it, become one of the best and earned the nickname Mr. Death for never getting killed whatever the odds. That's pretty much it.

I'm satisfied with the info we get from his files: [link]

A game could not contain how incredibly awesome HUNK is if he were a main character....Many game systems would be blown to pieces. This is why he can only be a secondary character with mini-games.


/end thread.

Mcghie wrote:

I dont know Mass.
I only said please dont be another Leon fanboy (you know what kind I'm on about) and he flips out.
Turo, just to clear things up it doesn't matter if your fan of Leon but a fanboy is completely different.
That's why I said please dont be another Leon fanboy.

I was merely starting a civil reply based on factual evidence surrounding each character, you know as you do on a discussion and you took it to heart.
Just chill man I wasn't flaming you or getting on at you I was just want to have a back and fourth conversation with you regarding the characters pointed out

Sorry if I came on a little strong. I was annoyed that you were already bothered by me mentioning Leon. Please tell me how I came off as a fanboy. I mean, why does it matter? If I had a Barry avatar and used Barry as an example would you say "please don't be a Barry fanboy"? I am by no means a fanboy of any character. I enjoy some, I don't mind others, and I dislike a few. I totally get the fanboy thing, I hate hearing stupid debates about Chris or Leon. It gets annoying not because of the debate itself, but because how poorly it's handled.

I in no way took it to heart, sorry if it seemed that way. And same here, I'm just here for the sake of conversation with some intelligent RE fans for once.

I still don't see what the big deal about HUNK is. He's just like any other character in RE series. I'm sure Chris, Leon, and Jill have already surpassed him in skill and achievement. What the hell has HUNK done besides some unknown missions and the 4th survivor? These guys are still going at it and taking on greater challenges. And Krauser ain't no punk as well. Especially with his enhancements. Yeah, Krauser was defeated, but so was Wesker. Does that make Wesker any weaker? No, and that's because the villains always lose. You're not going to play a game just to find out that you lose at the end are you?

Mass Distraction wrote:

He even ended up training Vector who seems to be rather skilled himself.

Isn't he from Operation Raccoon City? Last I heard that wasn't canon to the main series so I wouldn't really count it as an accomplishment of his. It's like factoring in things from Gaiden and crediting Leon and Barry with it. But that's just me.

Turo602 wrote:

I think Krauser could pretty much own HUNK. HUNK has his Mr. Death reputation because he's always coming back from his missions as the only survivor. But that's not really impressive. Leon survived a zombie outbreak as a rookie cop and made it out alive with Claire and Sherry. That's no different from what HUNK does. HUNK is just like anybody else in the series and Krauser has proven to be more lethal. He has a military background and he's superhuman.

I hate to just side with the new guy, but he's making a lot of sense.

That's a good example. I like it.

And Jack, despite his abilities that Las Plagas granted, that's still legit and can be legally used in this fictional fight between REAL characters.

Turo602 wrote:

No, and that's because the villains always lose. You're not going to play a game just to find out that you lose at the end are you?

HUNK isn't technically a villain. He's just a hired gun. If he was a main character of one game he'd be on the winning side right? I wouldn't count the "hero factor" to take part in these fictional fights. Like you said, sure they (Chris, Jill, Leon) have accomplished more and become more trained over the years. Still, who is to say HUNK didn't keep on training and doing what he does? It's pretty much his nature. They are all about as good when it comes to combat.

Turo602 wrote:

Isn't he from Operation Raccoon City? Last I heard that wasn't canon to the main series so I wouldn't really count it as an accomplishment of his. It's like factoring in things from Gaiden and crediting Leon and Barry with it. But that's just me.

ORC is as canon as you want it to be. There will be a possibility to play through the whole game either the canon or non-canon way. If it's official and not dropped from canon by later releases (like Gaiden, for example) I take it as part of the actual canon.

Mass Distraction wrote:

HUNK isn't technically a villain. He's just a hired gun. If he was a main character of one game he'd be on the winning side right? I wouldn't count the "hero factor" to take part in these fictional fights. Like you said, sure they (Chris, Jill, Leon) have accomplished more and become more trained over the years. Still, who is to say HUNK didn't keep on training and doing what he does? It's pretty much his nature. They are all about as good when it comes to combat.

I wasn't trying to say HUNK is a villain. I was bringing that up for Krauser and Wesker and saying that's why they lost. And just because they've been defeated, doesn't mean they can be defeated by HUNK. They're still as skillful and as powerful as they always were and I just don't see HUNK standing a chance.

That's just it, we DON'T know what HUNK's been up to so we can't say much about him besides "what ifs".

Mass Distraction wrote:

ORC is as canon as you want it to be. There will be a possibility to play through the whole game either the canon or non-canon way. If it's official and not dropped from canon by later releases (like Gaiden, for example) I take it as part of the actual canon.

Sorry for my lack of knowledge on this game as I haven't been really keeping up with it too much. Can you please elaborate on this canon and non-canon way to play? When I heard you kill the heroes of the game I lost some interest, but the gameplay looks pretty damn good. Good enough to have my money.

Turo602 wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

ORC is as canon as you want it to be. There will be a possibility to play through the whole game either the canon or non-canon way. If it's official and not dropped from canon by later releases (like Gaiden, for example) I take it as part of the actual canon.

Sorry for my lack of knowledge on this game as I haven't been really keeping up with it too much. Can you please elaborate on this canon and non-canon way to play? When I heard you kill the heroes of the game I lost some interest, but the gameplay looks pretty damn good. Good enough to have my money.

You are given choices on how you're going to do certain things. For example you can spare the heroes and let them complete their own storylines like it was supposed to happen or just completely write your own history and hunt them down.

That's a bunch of replay value right there.

Mass Distraction wrote:

Turo602 wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

ORC is as canon as you want it to be. There will be a possibility to play through the whole game either the canon or non-canon way. If it's official and not dropped from canon by later releases (like Gaiden, for example) I take it as part of the actual canon.

Sorry for my lack of knowledge on this game as I haven't been really keeping up with it too much. Can you please elaborate on this canon and non-canon way to play? When I heard you kill the heroes of the game I lost some interest, but the gameplay looks pretty damn good. Good enough to have my money.

You are given choices on how you're going to do certain things. For example you can spare the heroes and let them complete their own storylines like it was supposed to happen or just completely write your own history and hunt them down.

That's a bunch of replay value right there.

Nice. Thanks for the info dude. This game keeps getting even more interesting every time I see it.

I hope I'm not the only one here who wants to do this but I want to just hunt them down....so I can finally kill that Leon fellow.

i choose krauser cos hes a bit of a bad ass