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Albert Birkin 92 Cerberus
Posts : 55 Join date : 2012-02-26 Age : 31 Location : Everywhere where I want to go is enough for me.
| Subject: A question about Wesker, please. Sun May 06, 2012 9:16 pm | |
| Can anyone tell me if there is another reference to the Wesker Children Project in the other RE games before RE 5. Because I don't remember but in Umbrella Chronicles he injected himself with something and I believe that he got his powers with that, but now it seems that he already born with them. |
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RebelliousQueen Government Official
Soulful-Decoder8 Steam : Missy Claire Gaming Posts : 2973 Join date : 2012-02-21 Age : 31 Location : Manila, Philippines
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Sun May 06, 2012 11:26 pm | |
| Spencer said that Albert Wesker has a special blood. But he is not infected that time. That's why he was one of Wesker Children cause of that special blood that he had. I knew that he was born with that special blood maybe the reason why he injected the virus to himself cause he want to be immortal. Just like Jake's Muller Issue, still I can't figure out. |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Sun May 06, 2012 11:48 pm | |
| Albert Wesker happened to be born with special blood. This blood allowed him to take the unnamed virus that gave him his powers and live. He is the only known person to survive that virus. He was chosen at a very young age to be a part of the Wesker Children project and at the end of RE1, he injected himself with the unnamed virus, got "killed" by the tyrant and was "reborn" just in time to escape. As far as I know, there are no references before RE5. |
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RebelliousQueen Government Official
Soulful-Decoder8 Steam : Missy Claire Gaming Posts : 2973 Join date : 2012-02-21 Age : 31 Location : Manila, Philippines
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Sun May 06, 2012 11:54 pm | |
| - NiteKrawler wrote:
- Albert Wesker happened to be born with special blood. This blood allowed him to take the unnamed virus that gave him his powers and live. He is the only known person to survive that virus. He was chosen at a very young age to be a part of the Wesker Children project and at the end of RE1, he injected himself with the unnamed virus, got "killed" by the tyrant and was "reborn" just in time to escape. As far as I know, there are no references before RE5.
That's exactly how he said it. Thanks Nite for backing me up. |
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Albert Birkin 92 Cerberus
Posts : 55 Join date : 2012-02-26 Age : 31 Location : Everywhere where I want to go is enough for me.
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Mon May 07, 2012 3:11 am | |
| - NiteKrawler wrote:
- Albert Wesker happened to be born with special blood. This blood allowed him to take the unnamed virus that gave him his powers and live. He is the only known person to survive that virus. He was chosen at a very young age to be a part of the Wesker Children project and at the end of RE1, he injected himself with the unnamed virus, got "killed" by the tyrant and was "reborn" just in time to escape. As far as I know, there are no references before RE5.
Before RE 5 I used to believe that was Birkin the one who created the virus that gave Wesker his powers, It was a real surprise hear about Wesker Children in RE 5. |
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Jill Sandwich Umbrella Scientist
Posts : 466 Join date : 2012-03-11 Age : 35 Location : Pittsburgh, PA
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Mon May 07, 2012 7:49 am | |
| Yeah most of the Wesker Children didn't survive at the time except Alex(still don't know of his whereabouts) and Albert. I forgot that Spencer mentioned about his special blood. Birkin's virus just put Wesker into temporary suspended animation after he was impaled. I also think the virus had regenerative abilities. |
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RebelliousQueen Government Official
Soulful-Decoder8 Steam : Missy Claire Gaming Posts : 2973 Join date : 2012-02-21 Age : 31 Location : Manila, Philippines
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Mon May 07, 2012 11:20 am | |
| Only Alex and Albert survived the Wesker Children I knew that they were 13 of them. I am not so sure. |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Mon May 07, 2012 1:27 pm | |
| - Jill Sandwich wrote:
- Birkin's virus just put Wesker into temporary suspended animation after he was impaled. I also think the virus had regenerative abilities.
The virus given to Albert by Birkin was indeed the virus that gave him his power. It never put him in suspended animation, it merely brought him back from death after the tyrant impaled him. As for who made the virus, no one knows. It wasn't Birkin though, as far as we know. |
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RaviorStygian UBCS
RaviorStygian Posts : 1568 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 29 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Mon May 07, 2012 1:51 pm | |
| - NiteKrawler wrote:
- Jill Sandwich wrote:
- Birkin's virus just put Wesker into temporary suspended animation after he was impaled. I also think the virus had regenerative abilities.
The virus given to Albert by Birkin was indeed the virus that gave him his power. It never put him in suspended animation, it merely brought him back from death after the tyrant impaled him. As for who made the virus, no one knows. It wasn't Birkin though, as far as we know. I have a question: would the virus only work if he died first? |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Mon May 07, 2012 6:07 pm | |
| No, I don't think so. It was just happenstance that he had died just after the injection. |
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RaviorStygian UBCS
RaviorStygian Posts : 1568 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 29 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Mon May 07, 2012 7:02 pm | |
| - NiteKrawler wrote:
- No, I don't think so. It was just happenstance that he had died just after the injection.
I see, so when he was surprised by the Tyrant coming towards him, it was genuine shock. I always thought he was acting. |
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Albert Birkin 92 Cerberus
Posts : 55 Join date : 2012-02-26 Age : 31 Location : Everywhere where I want to go is enough for me.
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Mon May 07, 2012 9:53 pm | |
| - Jill Sandwich wrote:
- Yeah most of the Wesker Children didn't survive at the time except Alex(still don't know of his whereabouts) and Albert. I forgot that Spencer mentioned about his special blood. Birkin's virus just put Wesker into temporary suspended animation after he was impaled. I also think the virus had regenerative abilities.
But there is something, when Wesker is fighting with Chris at the end of Code Veronica, he says I'm not human anymore, but look all the power I've gained or something like that. this means that actually he was human once. But he already born with the virus in his blood, then he never was human. that's a mistake or something??? |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Mon May 07, 2012 10:03 pm | |
| He was acting to a degree. He did plan to "die" there. That's why he took the virus at that point. To fake his death. He was hoping it would bring him back to life, which it did. Albert was not born with the virus in his blood. He was only born with blood capable of dealing with the virus. Therefore, in Code Veronica, when he said he was not human anymore, he meant that after he took the virus in RE1, he became something non-human. |
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Albert Birkin 92 Cerberus
Posts : 55 Join date : 2012-02-26 Age : 31 Location : Everywhere where I want to go is enough for me.
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Mon May 07, 2012 10:14 pm | |
| - NiteKrawler wrote:
- He was acting to a degree. He did plan to "die" there. That's why he took the virus at that point. To fake his death. He was hoping it would bring him back to life, which it did. Albert was not born with the virus in his blood. He was only born with blood capable of dealing with the virus. Therefore, in Code Veronica, when he said he was not human anymore, he meant that after he took the virus in RE1, he became something non-human.
Does Wesker have parents? Or he was created in a laboratory and then give as a newborn to a a family?? Opinions |
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Spike991 User BANNED
Posts : 9885 Join date : 2008-12-08
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Mon May 07, 2012 10:19 pm | |
| - NiteKrawler wrote:
- He was acting to a degree. He did plan to "die" there. That's why he took the virus at that point. To fake his death. He was hoping it would bring him back to life, which it did. Albert was not born with the virus in his blood. He was only born with blood capable of dealing with the virus. Therefore, in Code Veronica, when he said he was not human anymore, he meant that after he took the virus in RE1, he became something non-human.
You see, now I think it's always said that he was supposed to take it to bring him back to life after death. I don't know if that was just a coincidence. @the other questions: Have you read the Albert Wesker File in RE5? The Wesker's Report, Wesker's Report II? Anything? |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Tue May 08, 2012 1:21 am | |
| No. He has parents. Many people misunderstood the conversation between Spencer and Albert in RE5, and claim that Albert was "made". Sure he was made. With sexual reproduction just like the rest of us. It was never said that he had to die for the virus to work. Obviously it isn't true because most of the other Wesker Children took the virus voluntarily, without dying until the virus killed them. |
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DeadlyGenetics Crimson Head
Posts : 647 Join date : 2012-02-08 Age : 33 Location : Out of Earshot
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Tue May 08, 2012 8:21 am | |
| Info on the Wesker Children didn't surface until RE5 was released. You first learn about this 'project' during the conversation between Albert Wesker and Oswell E. Spencer in the castle before Spencer states that he was to be a God soon followed by Wesker killing him and saying, "The right to be a God... is now Mine." Wesker also asked, "Are you saying I was 'manufactured'?" but Spencer never really answered him. This makes me think that maybe Spencer took certain people and forced them to conceive children together for the purpose of the Wesker Children project. Hell for all we know Albert might be Alex Wesker's real son. - Spoiler:
I say this because there is a video where an older male researcher is talking to Ada and his voice is similar to that of Albert's and he tells Ada about the whereabouts of Jake Muller, a man who is supposed to be Albert Wesker's son supposedly. I know that doesn't really prove anything on Albert possibly being Alex's son, but it makes you think and wonder. Or at least it does me anyway. And it is a video for RE6, I'll see if I can find it if it hasn't been posted here already though it probably has been.
Alex Wesker was the founder of the Wesker Children project, hence why all of the children involved in the project hold his last name. He was an Umbrella Researcher, not a Wesker Child himself. Albert along with many other children, all specifically born to highly intellectual parents, were taken from their parents at incredibly young ages to be raised for said project. Each Wesker child was given the exact same virus that Albert had as well. Let it be by way of a friend, confidant, etc... Just like Albert received his from William Birkin, fellow Umbrella researcher, close friend and rival. In one of the Wesker's Reports, Wesker states that 'there are only a hand full of people in the world like himself that could survive with his virus'. I still believe personally that what they mean by 'special blood' is that he had the ever so rare O blood type, just like Chris and Claire Redfield. O blood is rare because it can be combined with any other blood type without the fear of coagulating in the veins ending in death. That's what I think they mean when they go on about 'special blood'. It ain't easy finding someone with it, even people with O blood who conceive children there's a very slim chance it'll be passed on unless they're with someone who also has O blood. Maybe Albert's parents both had O blood and that made it extra special. Who knows. Maybe they'll go into it a bit more in RE6 when it comes out. But in the meantime there are files that you can read up on and such to piece bits and pieces together. |
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Jill Sandwich Umbrella Scientist
Posts : 466 Join date : 2012-03-11 Age : 35 Location : Pittsburgh, PA
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Tue May 08, 2012 8:51 am | |
| I don't believe Wesker has any memory before or after Project W. Since all of the children were brainwashed. Hence is why he asked if he was manufactured. Also, I wonder since Wesker didn't die from the prototype virus created from part of the progenitor virus, does this mean that Wesker is immune to both the progenitor and T-virus?
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Tue May 08, 2012 8:59 am | |
| - DeadlyGenetics wrote:
- Alex Wesker was the founder of the Wesker Children project, hence why all of the children involved in the project hold his last name. He was an Umbrella Researcher, not a Wesker Child himself.
Where on earth did you get that from? Alex Wesker was the 13th of the Wesker Children. Nothing is known about the founder of the project except that his surname was Wesker, thus giving a name for the whole project and all of the subjects. Alex Wesker has only been mentioned to serve Spencer and was given his own project to conduct but he fled with whatever he was working on. - Jill Sandwich wrote:
- I wonder since Wesker didn't die from the prototype virus created from part of the progenitor virus, does this mean that Wesker is immune to both the progenitor and T-virus?
I think so, yes. |
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DeadlyGenetics Crimson Head
Posts : 647 Join date : 2012-02-08 Age : 33 Location : Out of Earshot
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Tue May 08, 2012 9:52 am | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- DeadlyGenetics wrote:
- Alex Wesker was the founder of the Wesker Children project, hence why all of the children involved in the project hold his last name. He was an Umbrella Researcher, not a Wesker Child himself.
Where on earth did you get that from? Alex Wesker was the 13th of the Wesker Children. Nothing is known about the founder of the project except that his surname was Wesker, thus giving a name for the whole project and all of the subjects.
Alex Wesker has only been mentioned to serve Spencer and was given his own project to conduct but he fled with whatever he was working on. Gimmie a bit to refind everything all over again. And Albert was #13... |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Tue May 08, 2012 10:49 am | |
| Yes, yes. You were correct. Albert was #13 and Alex was #12.
I still couldn't find anything indicating that Alex was the father of the program, which I'm rather sure he isn't. |
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Monster Mash Umbrella Scientist
Posts : 418 Join date : 2011-07-11 Location : In the lab
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Tue May 08, 2012 11:17 am | |
| - DeadlyGenetics wrote:
- O blood is rare because it can be combined with any other blood type without the fear of coagulating in the veins ending in death. That's what I think they mean when they go on about 'special blood'. It ain't easy finding someone with it, even people with O blood who conceive children there's a very slim chance it'll be passed on unless they're with someone who also has O blood. Maybe Albert's parents both had O blood and that made it extra special. Who knows. Maybe they'll go into it a bit more in RE6 when it comes out.
Interesting, maybe that's where the name Oroboros came from, because it's definitely not a Swahili word. |
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Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Tue May 08, 2012 12:09 pm | |
| - Monster Mash wrote:
- DeadlyGenetics wrote:
- O blood is rare because it can be combined with any other blood type without the fear of coagulating in the veins ending in death. That's what I think they mean when they go on about 'special blood'. It ain't easy finding someone with it, even people with O blood who conceive children there's a very slim chance it'll be passed on unless they're with someone who also has O blood. Maybe Albert's parents both had O blood and that made it extra special. Who knows. Maybe they'll go into it a bit more in RE6 when it comes out.
Interesting, maybe that's where the name Oroboros came from, because it's definitely not a Swahili word. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Tue May 08, 2012 12:22 pm | |
| Mass is right, Alex was a Wesker Child. He definitely was not the founder of the program. Alex and the founder have been mentioned separately in different files. Alex is named, and the founder is just some researcher with the surname Wesker. And all of the Wesker children are probably very similar in age. As for Albert's blood being special because it is O type, I doubt it. Although O is fairly rare, there are still a TON of people that have it. Considering Earth's population, O is pretty common. |
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lyfesArcanum Select Police Force
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| Subject: Re: A question about Wesker, please. Tue May 08, 2012 12:41 pm | |
| Ouroboros spans across thousands of years and just about as many cultures |
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