Spencer Mansion question!

In the Remake when you venture outside of the spencer mansion there appear to be small graveyards. What kind of people were buried on the estate? The Spencer family relatives?

Jamesy wrote:

In the Remake when you venture outside of the spencer mansion there appear to be small graveyards. What kind of people were buried on the estate? The Spencer family relatives?

It never says, and anything is really just speculation...but wasn't the one that was chained up in the coffin George Trevor? Maybe that as all set up as some elaborate way to hold Trevor's dead body, wouldn't put it pass Spencer.

Quite true although it is known in true historcial contexts for large mansion estates to have their own graveyards where the families are buried...nice big family plots so maybe it could have been the Spencer family plot or maybe it was a very elaborate hoax and trap....we may never know.

RedFieldRiot wrote:

Quite true although it is known in true historcial contexts for large mansion estates to have their own graveyards where the families are buried...nice big family plots so maybe it could have been the Spencer family plot or maybe it was a very elaborate hoax and trap....we may never know.

Yeah that could be, as having a bunch of elaborate traps is Spencer's forte.

Well considering the mansion isn't old enough to have housed any other generations, they are probably all empty. I think it was just a way of making the REmake more creepy. I don't think they thought much about who was actually in these graves. I assume Umbrella wouldn't put that much effort into burying failed experiments or assassinated persons. They'd probably just incinerate them.

NiteKrawler wrote:

Well considering the mansion isn't old enough to have housed any other generations, they are probably all empty. I think it was just a way of making the REmake more creepy. I don't think they thought much about who was actually in these graves. I assume Umbrella wouldn't put that much effort into burying failed experiments or assassinated persons. They'd probably just incinerate them.

Not Umbrella, but Spencer specifically, as burying just someone random person isn't what would happen, but Trevor is much more significant.

Spike991 wrote:

NiteKrawler wrote:

Well considering the mansion isn't old enough to have housed any other generations, they are probably all empty. I think it was just a way of making the REmake more creepy. I don't think they thought much about who was actually in these graves. I assume Umbrella wouldn't put that much effort into burying failed experiments or assassinated persons. They'd probably just incinerate them.

Not Umbrella, but Spencer specifically, as burying just someone random person isn't what would happen, but Trevor is much more significant.

Trevor would be the only logical one buried there. Maybe Jessica too.

NiteKrawler wrote:

Spike991 wrote:

NiteKrawler wrote:

Well considering the mansion isn't old enough to have housed any other generations, they are probably all empty. I think it was just a way of making the REmake more creepy. I don't think they thought much about who was actually in these graves. I assume Umbrella wouldn't put that much effort into burying failed experiments or assassinated persons. They'd probably just incinerate them.

Not Umbrella, but Spencer specifically, as burying just someone random person isn't what would happen, but Trevor is much more significant.

Trevor would be the only logical one buried there. Maybe Jessica too.

Yeah that is what I was saying. I am pretty sure he is the one zombie/crimson head, that is burried in that coffin that you have to release with the 4 masks....

Spike991 wrote:

NiteKrawler wrote:

Spike991 wrote:

NiteKrawler wrote:

Well considering the mansion isn't old enough to have housed any other generations, they are probably all empty. I think it was just a way of making the REmake more creepy. I don't think they thought much about who was actually in these graves. I assume Umbrella wouldn't put that much effort into burying failed experiments or assassinated persons. They'd probably just incinerate them.

Not Umbrella, but Spencer specifically, as burying just someone random person isn't what would happen, but Trevor is much more significant.

Trevor would be the only logical one buried there. Maybe Jessica too.

Yeah that is what I was saying. I am pretty sure he is the one zombie/crimson head, that is burried in that coffin that you have to release with the 4 masks....

I should look it up...I'm just too lazy.

I'd say most likely relatives etc. Not uncommon for big mansions to have private cemeteries, as the intent is for the house to be passed down through the generations.

lyfesArcanum wrote:

I'd say most likely relatives etc. Not uncommon for big mansions to have private cemeteries, as the intent is for the house to be passed down through the generations.

It's only be relatives if they were transferred there from some other cemetery. I'd say it was mostly set up to make the mansion seem more authentic to anyone who may come too close.

NiteKrawler wrote:

lyfesArcanum wrote:

I'd say most likely relatives etc. Not uncommon for big mansions to have private cemeteries, as the intent is for the house to be passed down through the generations.

It's only be relatives if they were transferred there from some other cemetery. I'd say it was mostly set up to make the mansion seem more authentic to anyone who may come too close.

Yeah, good point. Fake headstones. One of the few things Umbrella may have actually thought through.

lyfesArcanum wrote:

I'd say most likely relatives etc. Not uncommon for big mansions to have private cemeteries, as the intent is for the house to be passed down through the generations.

Sure, but this is not ordinary, even in the slightest, and last time I checked Spencer wasn't trying to finish up his research to go sit down witht the family and have dinner.

It is speculation, but Spencer was more than likely a bachelor, and whom he would bury would more than likely be Trevor, for sinister and self sastisfactory purposes.

@Nite, about the one in the coffin being Trevor, well I am not too lazy, but I actually just don't remember it ever saying he was the one in the coffin, it is just speculation, and one of thoes RE Retrospective videos that frodomir usually posts mentions that, of course those guys have been incorrect before but.....

You know I was talking about myself being lazy right Spike? Just figured I'd make sure lol.

NiteKrawler wrote:

I'd say it was mostly set up to make the mansion seem more authentic to anyone who may come too close.

I second this,its exactly that.

and for the Crimson being in the coffin...I doubt its Trevor,as Trevor is dead long time ago and the experiences on this Crimson were only made recently,read reports about the creature in the coffin,they say in that report,that they put this mad zombie into the coffin(and I think I remember this report was dated recently,have to check it).

NiteKrawler wrote:

You know I was talking about myself being lazy right Spike? Just figured I'd make sure lol.

Yeah I know. That is weird, because I reread my reply right after I made it and I thought you might think I though you said I was lazy, but it is kind of funny because I was too lazy to change it....

Anywho, @PublicEnemy, I don't think that there was ever a document that described how might be in the coffin, as I said before, just speculation, but the idea of Trevor is probably the most logical, although I am aware that Crimson Heads seem to be a mutation from the orignal zombie...and I also do not remember George ever being infected at all...again I need to read the stuff again.

Spike991 wrote:

Anywho, @PublicEnemy, I don't think that there was ever a document that described how might be in the coffin, as I said before, just speculation, but the idea of Trevor is probably the most logical, although I am aware that Crimson Heads seem to be a mutation from the orignal zombie...and I also do not remember George ever being infected at all...again I need to read the stuff again.

Yes there is a document about it(atleast in my game )
where a scientist is talkin about crimson heads,and saying that they "enclosed this creature into the coffin,under the cemetery" (those not might be the exact words,but I'll get you the exact words soon)

PublicEnemy wrote:

Spike991 wrote:

Anywho, @PublicEnemy, I don't think that there was ever a document that described how might be in the coffin, as I said before, just speculation, but the idea of Trevor is probably the most logical, although I am aware that Crimson Heads seem to be a mutation from the orignal zombie...and I also do not remember George ever being infected at all...again I need to read the stuff again.

Yes there is a document about it(atleast in my game )
where a scientist is talkin about crimson heads,and saying that they "enclosed this creature into the coffin,under the cemetery" (those not might be the exact words,but I'll get you the exact words soon)

And I will be eagerly awaiting.

Ok,until I can get my hands on my Wii(probably friday or saturday) and find this report again...
Ill put on the exact words and where you find this report.

PublicEnemy wrote:

Ok,until I can get my hands on my Wii(probably friday or saturday) and find this report again...
Ill put on the exact words and where you find this report.

Well I have REmake on GC, so Iam sure I could find it, as well as numerous RE site that have the documents written for viewing pleasure, if I find it before you do I will quote the exact words & post for our viewing pleasure.

Spike991 wrote:

Well I have REmake on GC, so Iam sure I could find it, as well as numerous RE site that have the documents written for viewing pleasure, if I find it before you do I will quote the exact words & post for our viewing pleasure.

No problems mate,and to help you find it,if I remember it right,you find this document before you fight the crimson head under the cemetary.




ps:and the document(besides talkin about they put the crimson head in the coffin under the cemetary)talks about why they named the "crimson-head" like that...

Okay Public, here we go, they were the V-acts.

"V-ACT

There is now evidence that when the host loses consciousness, the body
goes into a dormant state. During this time the virus becomes active
and rapidly transforms and reconstructs the basic composition of the
body.

The host eventually mutated into a humanoid creature. (We call them V-
ACTs)

Its speed and amazing muscular development are particularly noteworthy.
After transformation, it becomes more agile and aggressive.

Already four of our researchers have died from trying to feed it,
turning the place into an instant blood bath. (Ever since this tragic
and barbaric accident, we have decided to call its kind "Crimson Heads")

That dangerous and precious prototype specimen can't be left there. We
have to figure out a way to deal with it. Termination is definitely not
an option.

We finally decided to freeze the specimen and confine the body inside
the basement of the backyard cemetery."

It doesn't say that it is or isn't George Trevor, it simply says that it was a prototype, so it could be Trevor, or just some annonymous specimen.

Spike991 wrote:

Okay Public, here we go, they were the V-acts.

"V-ACT

There is now evidence that when the host loses consciousness, the body
goes into a dormant state. During this time the virus becomes active
and rapidly transforms and reconstructs the basic composition of the
body.

The host eventually mutated into a humanoid creature. (We call them V-
ACTs)

Its speed and amazing muscular development are particularly noteworthy.
After transformation, it becomes more agile and aggressive.

Already four of our researchers have died from trying to feed it,
turning the place into an instant blood bath. (Ever since this tragic
and barbaric accident, we have decided to call its kind "Crimson Heads")

That dangerous and precious prototype specimen can't be left there. We
have to figure out a way to deal with it. Termination is definitely not
an option.

We finally decided to freeze the specimen and confine the body inside
the basement of the backyard cemetery."

It doesn't say that it is or isn't George Trevor, it simply says that it was a prototype, so it could be Trevor, or just some annonymous specimen.

First,thanks for taking your time to find it.
But second,I was never speaking about they tell us if its Trevor or not,but about the date of this report.
wich would tell us if this report(and the experience) was made long time after the death of Trevor or not(compared along with the journal of Trevor,the last sentences with the last date probably shows when he approximatevely died).

PublicEnemy wrote:

First,thanks for taking your time to find it.
But second,I was never speaking about they tell us if its Trevor or not,but about the date of this report.
wich would tell us if this report(and the experience) was made long time after the death of Trevor or not(compared along with the journal of Trevor,the last sentences with the last date probably shows when he approximatevely died).

No problemo, it only took a few minutes.

Well I didn't see a date, but I do know that Trevor died long ago, wasn't it like 1960 something...

Spike991 wrote:

NiteKrawler wrote:

You know I was talking about myself being lazy right Spike? Just figured I'd make sure lol.

Yeah I know. That is weird, because I reread my reply right after I made it and I thought you might think I though you said I was lazy, but it is kind of funny because I was too lazy to change it....

lmao nice.