Is The Volcano "Death" Scene Still Controversial

I just watched the ending to RE5, where Chris and Sheva each shot an RPG missile at Wesker, who was standing in liquid hot magma. Does it look like Wesker squirms his head to the side in order to dodge the rocket, or does it behead him? What are your thoughts?

It looks like his head is blown to bits.

Besides, Capcom confirmed he is dead.

Idk I think it looks like his head moves around the missile.

I thought it missed the first time I saw it, but if you look closely...

Sweet close ups Narwhals, im impressed. So you're for it blows his head to pieces?

Yes, the missiles did destroy Wesker. It has been confirmed by Capcom several times that Wesker did perish in Resident Evil 5. Something that many people don't know is that Wesker was supposed to be in Resident Evil 6, as stated by the development team for Resident Evil 6. Capcom decided against it however and stated that it would cheapen his death and that nobody would take his character seriously if he was to return from the dead. They went on to say that Jake's whole existence is to carry on the Wesker legacy and be a definite replacement for Albert.

On another note, that's probably why Alex Wesker's character got expanded on in Lost in Nightmares. Capcom knew that Albert wasn't going to return so they introduced Alex to act as a replacement.

The Spike wrote:

Sweet close ups Narwhals, im impressed. So you're for it blows his head to pieces?

Yup, it's strange that the rockets didn't explode until they passed him, but they definitely removed his head.

DampRevil wrote:

Yes, the missiles did destroy Wesker. It has been confirmed by Capcom several times that Wesker did perish in Resident Evil 5. Something that many people don't know is that Wesker was supposed to be in Resident Evil 6, as stated by the development team for Resident Evil 6. Capcom decided against it however and stated that it would cheapen his death and that nobody would take his character seriously if he was to return from the dead. They went on to say that Jake's whole existence is to carry on the Wesker legacy and be a definite replacement for Albert.

On another note, that's probably why Alex Wesker's character got expanded on in Lost in Nightmares. Capcom knew that Albert wasn't going to return so they introduced Alex to act as a replacement.

I saw that video too. I thought the Jake thing was weird, I was like "Did this guy even see LiN? He's acting like we don't already have a Wesker replacement."

That was weird, I agree. I know Capcom said a while ago that Jake was created to appeal to "younger fans". They probably thought Jake would lure in the Call of Duty fan base  . We'll probably see Alex sooner or later, after all he did run away with the key to immortality!

Even if the rockets didn't take out his head, the explosion would have. Uroborous was weak to fire. And Lava is one of the hottest things you could get in the area.

Well, there ya go folks. Wesker is dead, and I need cake.

DampRevil wrote:

That was weird, I agree. I know Capcom said a while ago that Jake was created to appeal to "younger fans".

I'm a young fan,but of all RE characters, in all RE games, he's the one I find least appealing in both personality and design.

On the topic - I'd say he won't be coming back. Well, unless the game's story is before RE5.

BTW At first I thought that while memorable,his death was a bit ridiculous,because of the volcano. But after seeing Alfred and hearing his Alexia voice...everything else started making sense.

37 Narwhals wrote:

Yup, it's strange that the rockets didn't explode until they passed him, but they definitely removed his head.

RPGs are designed primarily to combat armored vehicles, so Wesker's head probably just wasn't hard enough to trigger the detonation. That said, they can also be notoriously unreliable. In Mogadishu in 1993, a US Army Ranger, SPC. Richard Kowalewski, was killed when an RPG projectile punched through the door of the vehicle he was driving and embedded itself in his chest, with no resulting detonation.

Spike is only bringing this up because he doesn't like the fact that Sheva helped turn Wesker into volcano stew. His death was 5 years ago. He's dead. Get over it. There's no way he's coming back from that.

will1234562 wrote:

I'm a young fan,but of all RE characters, in all RE games, he's the one I find least appealing in both personality and design.

I agree. I'm 19, which is a year younger than Jake, and I would have never guessed Jake was 20 years old. Capcom's never been good at designing characters, especially young ones. I guess it doesn't help that Jake's voice actor is 17 years older than him.

Vandal wrote:

Spike is only bringing this up because he doesn't like the fact that Sheva helped turn Wesker into volcano stew. His death was 5 years ago. He's dead. Get over it. There's no way he's coming back from that.

I know a lot of people are upset that Jill didn't kill Wesker, I used to be really upset about that too. Most people probably won't agree, but as long as Chris killed Wesker nothing else should matter. The main relationship was between Chris and Wesker, not Chris, Jill, and Wesker.

I'm actually happy that Wesker died when he did. I liked Wesker as a character and antagonist, but his character was hitting rock bottom. He turned into this typical cliche antagonist that was determined on destroying the world. Even if he survived Resident Evil 5, what would be his purpose after that? To come back in Resident Evil 6 and try to destroy the world? To come back in Resident Evil 7 and try to destroy the world? It would become a very tiring story.

DampRevil wrote:

will1234562 wrote:

I'm a young fan,but of all RE characters, in all RE games, he's the one I find least appealing in both personality and design.

I agree. I'm 19, which is a year younger than Jake, and I would have never guessed Jake was 20 years old.

Now that you mentioned it - the first time I saw Jake I thought he was 35+ xD.

DampRevil wrote:

I know a lot of people are upset that Jill didn't kill Wesker, I used to be really upset about that too.

Sheva did feel kind of out of place,but I think that that's because she didn't have enough backstory.

Vandal wrote:

Spike is only bringing this up because he doesn't like the fact that Sheva helped turn Wesker into volcano stew. His death was 5 years ago. He's dead. Get over it. There's no way he's coming back from that.

That is a typically off point remark.

She is irrelevant to the pertinent topic, which is Wesker and missiles, not whom they were shot by.

Ive seen a lot of heads exploding in RE. Whether that be when im aiming my shotgun up at a zombie's face, or getting awesome headshots in RE5, Wesker head doesnt really look like it's blown to bits, but im not convinced either way. May as well leave it a mystery, like who really shot JFK and who shot Tupac.

@Damp, the fued was.certainly between Chris and Wesker, not Chris/Wesker/Jill. Even still, Chris/Wesker/Jill still makes more sense than Chris/Wesker/Sheva.

will1234562 wrote:

Now that you mentioned it - the first time I saw Jake I thought he was 35+ xD.

Sheva did feel kind of out of place,but I think that that's because she didn't have enough backstory.

Exactly, Jake doesn't look nor act like he's 20! I agree about Sheva, I don't necessarily think Sheva doesn't have enough backstory, she just don't have enough history with any of the games characters. It's awkward to have Jill in the game, who has 10+ years history with Wesker and Sheva who has only known Wesker for a few hours. To have Sheva kill Wesker, when she has no personal reason to, over Jill didn't quite sit right with most fans.

The Spike wrote:

Vandal wrote:

Spike is only bringing this up because he doesn't like the fact that Sheva helped turn Wesker into volcano stew. His death was 5 years ago. He's dead. Get over it. There's no way he's coming back from that.

That is a typically off point remark.

She is irrelevant to the pertinent topic, which is Wesker and missiles, not whom they were shot by.

Ive seen a lot of heads exploding in RE. Whether that be when im aiming my shotgun up at a zombie's face, or getting awesome headshots in RE5, Wesker head doesnt really look like it's blown to bits, but im not convinced either way. May as well leave it a mystery, like who really shot JFK and who shot Tupac.

Just saying, you have a history of bitching about how Sheva doesn't belong, but never about if Wesker is still alive. Of course he's dead. Capcom said he's dead. In fact I quoted Capcom when I said "He's not coming back from that..."

Plus, he wasn't standing in lava, he was chest deep, and both RPGs blew up.

Ghost Leader wrote:

RPGs are designed primarily to combat armored vehicles, so Wesker's head probably just wasn't hard enough to trigger the detonation. That said, they can also be notoriously unreliable. In Mogadishu in 1993, a US Army Ranger, SPC. Richard Kowalewski, was killed when an RPG projectile punched through the door of the vehicle he was driving and embedded itself in his chest, with no resulting detonation.

Interesting, thanks for the info.

DampRevil wrote:

That was weird, I agree. I know Capcom said a while ago that Jake was created to appeal to "younger fans". They probably thought Jake would lure in the Call of Duty fan base  . We'll probably see Alex sooner or later, after all he did run away with the key to immortality!

Makes sense, I kinda felt like he was made for the movie fans.

The Spike wrote:

Ive seen a lot of heads exploding in RE. Whether that be when im aiming my shotgun up at a zombie's face, or getting awesome headshots in RE5, Wesker head doesnt really look like it's blown to bits, but im not convinced either way. May as well leave it a mystery, like who really shot JFK and who shot Tupac.

The second screen shot I posted clearly shows a rocket sticking out of his head, and the next one shows him without a head, what's not convincing about that?

DampRevil wrote:

will1234562 wrote:

Now that you mentioned it - the first time I saw Jake I thought he was 35+ xD.

Sheva did feel kind of out of place,but I think that that's because she didn't have enough backstory.

Exactly, Jake doesn't look nor act like he's 20! I agree about Sheva, I don't necessarily think Sheva doesn't have enough backstory, she just don't have enough history with any of the games characters. It's awkward to have Jill in the game, who has 10+ years history with Wesker and Sheva who has only known Wesker for a few hours. To have Sheva kill Wesker, when she has no personal reason to, over Jill didn't quite sit right with most fans.

The thing is, a lot of people out there don't "look" their age. If I ever upload a picture of myself here, you probably won't even think I'm 17.

But I do agree with you on Sheva. To date I still wished that Jill had taken her place with the rocket, but it is what it is.

Vandal wrote:

The Spike wrote:

Vandal wrote:

Spike is only bringing this up because he doesn't like the fact that Sheva helped turn Wesker into volcano stew. His death was 5 years ago. He's dead. Get over it. There's no way he's coming back from that.

That is a typically off point remark.

She is irrelevant to the pertinent topic, which is Wesker and missiles, not whom they were shot by.

Ive seen a lot of heads exploding in RE. Whether that be when im aiming my shotgun up at a zombie's face, or getting awesome headshots in RE5, Wesker head doesnt really look like it's blown to bits, but im not convinced either way. May as well leave it a mystery, like who really shot JFK and who shot Tupac.

Just saying, you have a history of bitching about how Sheva doesn't belong, but never about if Wesker is still alive. Of course he's dead. Capcom said he's dead. In fact I quoted Capcom when I said "He's not coming back from that..."

Plus, he wasn't standing in lava, he was chest deep, and both RPGs blew up.

I never asked if Wesker died in the volcano. I asked if he was beheaded. Try again.

Oh and Wesker was standing in the lava. Just because the lava is up to his abdomen doesnt mean we dont call it standing anymore. He certainly wasn't swimming. Moving onnn...

@Narwhals, thats just how it looks. It doesn't look like his head is blown to peices, it looks to me like his head moved to the side. With superhuman speed he could've seen the RPG coming at his head and could've reacted quickly enough to move his head. He got blown up anyway, but im going with his survival instinct kicking in and him trying to not take an RPG missile to the face.

@37 Narwhals, I have to agree with you on that!

@Nobudy , I agree that a lot of people don't look their age, I mean I certainly don't. It just seems off with Jake. When he was first announced, I thought he was in his mid 30's. The way his voice sounds, the way he acts, and just his overall character doesn't seem quite right for his age. On the topic of Wesker though, I do agree with you. It is what it is.

The Spike wrote:

@Narwhals, thats just how it looks. It doesn't look  like his head is blown to peices, it looks to me like his head moved to the side. With superhuman speed he could've seen the RPG coming at his head and could've reacted quickly enough to move his head. He  got blown up anyway, but im going with his survival instinct kicking in and him trying to not take an RPG missile to the face.

Considering his state at that exact moment, I don't think he would have been able to move his head that fast. I mean, we never see him moving just one single part of his body to move at high speeds nor did we ever see him using his super speed after he went high on uroboros.

As for the screenshots, those are just three frames. There might still be something like gibble in there that can't be seen in the screenshots. Oh, and there doesn't seem to be any of the "aura" that was around Albert whenever he used his speed.

Yeah, Rockets + Lava + Oroboros Weakness = Prime example of villain death making people frustrated.

His head disappears. It's for animation purposes. If you recall, that sequence is over in seconds. Why would he move his head if he would get blown to bits and consumed by lava anyway?