Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:52 am
Vandal wrote:
Shrike wrote:
Vandal wrote:
They didn't really ruin Chris, but they sure did ruin Leon and Wesker for me.
Yeah, Chris is about the only character that was not entirely ruined in 6. Still, I am glad Jill didn't come anywhere near that game - which, of course, doesn't mean she won't get tossed into the seventh game which can be worse then 6. Yes, I lost all faith in Capcom. If it wasn't for Revelations which were solid, I wouldn't have even bother with RE and forums such as these. I just want some of the quality back. Some. It's not too much to ask, I hope.
Before, the yellow and blue logo at the beginning of the game would mean you were playing a quality product. Now, it's hard enough for Capcom to decide on a direction in which they want to take their games. They have no focus, and their talent is divided on projects. Even the upmost important projects like DMC and Resident Evil.
Still i wouldn't be that pessimistic, cs one way or the other all that game is missing is horror, otherwise they are making a great game, i think that they can bring the horror back to it, im pretty sure that RE 7 will fit everybodys taste, since they are saying that they will concentrate on basis more then on the new direction. . . though im in more anticipation of RE CG movie then the game, i really wonder what they will do there, i hope that it wont be just another Leon mission . . .
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:48 am
ChrisRedfieldRE156 wrote:
Vandal wrote:
Shrike wrote:
Vandal wrote:
They didn't really ruin Chris, but they sure did ruin Leon and Wesker for me.
Yeah, Chris is about the only character that was not entirely ruined in 6. Still, I am glad Jill didn't come anywhere near that game - which, of course, doesn't mean she won't get tossed into the seventh game which can be worse then 6. Yes, I lost all faith in Capcom. If it wasn't for Revelations which were solid, I wouldn't have even bother with RE and forums such as these. I just want some of the quality back. Some. It's not too much to ask, I hope.
Before, the yellow and blue logo at the beginning of the game would mean you were playing a quality product. Now, it's hard enough for Capcom to decide on a direction in which they want to take their games. They have no focus, and their talent is divided on projects. Even the upmost important projects like DMC and Resident Evil.
Still i wouldn't be that pessimistic, cs one way or the other all that game is missing is horror, otherwise they are making a great game, i think that they can bring the horror back to it, im pretty sure that RE 7 will fit everybodys taste, since they are saying that they will concentrate on basis more then on the new direction. . . though im in more anticipation of RE CG movie then the game, i really wonder what they will do there, i hope that it wont be just another Leon mission . . .
The hell with everybodys taste! Thats Capcoms problem lately (aside form the fact that everyone who made Capcom what it is, is no longer A part of them) they are trying to appease to all audiences. Fact of the matter is you can't! You can sure as well try but it's going to be half-assed in each possible way. Capcom needs to stop giving A shit about trying to appeal to everyone and just do what they gotta do. This is how you get creative, this is how you change, this is how you be original. People don't know what they want, everyone wants something else. So I think it's time to just to ignore everyone and not be so god damn greedy and just make A quality game. It's just like Vandal said, back in the day when you booted up A game and seen Capcom's logo you knew you were in for A good time. Now it's just as well to keep the receipt in hand and hope for the best
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:01 am
chocotricks wrote:
ChrisRedfieldRE156 wrote:
Vandal wrote:
Shrike wrote:
Vandal wrote:
They didn't really ruin Chris, but they sure did ruin Leon and Wesker for me.
Yeah, Chris is about the only character that was not entirely ruined in 6. Still, I am glad Jill didn't come anywhere near that game - which, of course, doesn't mean she won't get tossed into the seventh game which can be worse then 6. Yes, I lost all faith in Capcom. If it wasn't for Revelations which were solid, I wouldn't have even bother with RE and forums such as these. I just want some of the quality back. Some. It's not too much to ask, I hope.
Before, the yellow and blue logo at the beginning of the game would mean you were playing a quality product. Now, it's hard enough for Capcom to decide on a direction in which they want to take their games. They have no focus, and their talent is divided on projects. Even the upmost important projects like DMC and Resident Evil.
Still i wouldn't be that pessimistic, cs one way or the other all that game is missing is horror, otherwise they are making a great game, i think that they can bring the horror back to it, im pretty sure that RE 7 will fit everybodys taste, since they are saying that they will concentrate on basis more then on the new direction. . . though im in more anticipation of RE CG movie then the game, i really wonder what they will do there, i hope that it wont be just another Leon mission . . .
The hell with everybodys taste! Thats Capcoms problem lately (aside form the fact that everyone who made Capcom what it is, is no longer A part of them) they are trying to appease to all audiences. Fact of the matter is you can't! You can sure as well try but it's going to be half-assed in each possible way. Capcom needs to stop giving A shit about trying to appeal to everyone and just do what they gotta do. This is how you get creative, this is how you change, this is how you be original. People don't know what they want, everyone wants something else. So I think it's time to just to ignore everyone and not be so god damn greedy and just make A quality game. It's just like Vandal said, back in the day when you booted up A game and seen Capcom's logo you knew you were in for A good time. Now it's just as well to keep the receipt in hand and hope for the best
I agree. Their spreading themselves thin trying to suit to everyone's tastes.
I mean, DMC was a great game (somewhat) but seriously? Releasing a reboot of a popular franchise that only had FOUR games? And the Resident Evil series have also been on the decline, even though Revelations has put a little more hope in me.
They can do better. I hope.
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:52 pm
Well you both are forgetting the fact that Capcom is a huge on profit corporation, for witch money is in the top of the list and the reason of the new direction ever since RE 4 was to expand their audience and thus make more money, so if the say fuck you to everyone and concentrate on old genre they wont make profit that would come close to what they will the other way, so if you think that capcom will ever get back to what it was decade ago then sorry to disappoint you, but you are daydreaming. So by fitting everyones taste they can kill 2 rabbits with one shot(but they must do it properly and not the way it was in RE6), i mean what game misses now is Horror, they must concentrate more on that, so that game actually becomes scary as it used to be and plus they must throw in some puzzles so that gamers will also think and not only "slice and dice", otherwise i see nothing wrong the way game is today with its awesome controls and new generation graphics, story develops brilliantly. I enjoyed RE 6 very much and it was in some parts quite nerve scratching, but agree that Caocom tried too much to please everyone and in doing so they failed in the end.
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:42 pm
There use to be a time where people outsourced their titles to Capcom. Remember Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap? Damn near perfect game.
Now when they outsource a game, they hand off a multi-million dollar franchise to a lowly company who only did three PSP games and a poorly developed PS3 game, without overseeing the project at all. When Kojima outsourced Metal Gear to Platinum Games, he at least checked up on them to make sure they were coming out with a quality product before releasing it. Slant Six released an unfinished game with no polish and more glitches than Cinnibar Island. And what's worse? They can't go back to developing good in-house games because all the great game producers left Capcom to do their own thing and come back with a flaming vengence, À la The Evil Within, Lolipop Chainsaw, and Mighty No. 9. What do you have left Capcom? A few shitty developers?
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:07 pm
Vandal wrote:
There use to be a time where people outsourced their titles to Capcom. Remember Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap? Damn near perfect game.
Now when they outsource a game, they hand off a multi-million dollar franchise to a lowly company who only did three PSP games and a poorly developed PS3 game, without overseeing the project at all. When Kojima outsourced Metal Gear to Platinum Games, he at least checked up on them to make sure they were coming out with a quality product before releasing it. Slant Six released an unfinished game with no polish and more glitches than Cinnibar Island. And what's worse? They can't go back to developing good in-house games because all the great game producers left Capcom to do their own thing and come back with a flaming vengence, À la The Evil Within, Lolipop Chainsaw, and Mighty No. 9. What do you have left Capcom? A few shitty developers?
I remember Minish Cap. It was good.
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:58 am
PWNERX wrote:
Vandal wrote:
There use to be a time where people outsourced their titles to Capcom. Remember Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap? Damn near perfect game.
Now when they outsource a game, they hand off a multi-million dollar franchise to a lowly company who only did three PSP games and a poorly developed PS3 game, without overseeing the project at all. When Kojima outsourced Metal Gear to Platinum Games, he at least checked up on them to make sure they were coming out with a quality product before releasing it. Slant Six released an unfinished game with no polish and more glitches than Cinnibar Island. And what's worse? They can't go back to developing good in-house games because all the great game producers left Capcom to do their own thing and come back with a flaming vengence, À la The Evil Within, Lolipop Chainsaw, and Mighty No. 9. What do you have left Capcom? A few shitty developers?
I remember Minish Cap. It was good.
Which reminds me...we haven't had a Zelda game in a while...
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:25 am
I think I'd rather finally see Barry again, then Jill.
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:39 am
White Rock wrote:
I think I'd rather finally see Barry again, then Jill.
Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:39 am
I think I'd rather see Claire again than anyone else
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:15 am
ThomVD wrote:
I think I'd rather see Claire again than anyone else
Thumbs up to this! I strongly agree to you bro.
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:11 am
I'd like to see Jill, Claire and Barry make a return to the RE series.
I think it was arrogance that kept Jill from returning for RE 6. As shooter games began to rise, and intelligence fall, Capcom most likely saw how big the sales were for 4 & 5 and decided to give us more of the same. "Oh, the Chris and Leon games made us so much money, why not give 'em more of the same? That way we'll get more money! They won't complain. After all, we know best."
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:34 pm
I 2nd that Tyrant. It seems they don't really care about the player anymore. They make it easier and easier to play and sell C grade games just to make the money and its not just RE.
But on the topic of why Jill wasn't in 6. Didn't make since to me. I mean after serving the bad guys for a few years you would think she would want to kick A$$. I would love to play as Jill, Claire, or Barry.TBH I would love to play as Wesker if not as a full game maybe as a DLC or unlock after you beat the game like in RE4 when you could play as Ada.
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:00 pm
wazthatme wrote:
I 2nd that Tyrant. It seems they don't really care about the player anymore. They make it easier and easier to play and sell C grade games just to make the money and its not just RE.
But on the topic of why Jill wasn't in 6. Didn't make since to me. I mean after serving the bad guys for a few years you would think she would want to kick A$$. I would love to play as Jill, Claire, or Barry.TBH I would love to play as Wesker if not as a full game maybe as a DLC or unlock after you beat the game like in RE4 when you could play as Ada.
I was hoping for Jill to have at least had a cameo in Chris's post credit scene. That would've gone some way to satisfying me. Not all the way. Just some.
I'd even love a change in the RE animated films. No Leon in the next one. Claire, Jill and Barry. Set it during RE 6 and show what happened to the three of them during the game.
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:15 pm
That would be sick
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Subject: Re: Why was Jill not in RE6? Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:32 pm
wazthatme wrote:
That would be sick
A chance to give some of the other RE greats a time to shine.