Views on RE5!

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:49 am

Jamesy wrote:: Although people say that RE4's plot was cheesy.... well that simplistic storyline made it an entertaining experience.

Do reviewers say that? I preferred when a story is simple like RE4, it's to the point and doesn't perfectly weaves exposition and narrative into the gameplay.

Unlike Resident Evil 6, where it's like a multi-personality disorder patient wrote a 30 hour long screenplay for a puppet show based on a crappy anime. You get lost too easily, there's too many dangling loose ends, and it's filled with more plot holes like a hooker in Whitechapple 1888.

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:02 pm

Vandal wrote:

Jamesy wrote:: Although people say that RE4's plot was cheesy.... well that simplistic storyline made it an entertaining experience.

Do reviewers say that? I preferred when a story is simple like RE4, it's to the point and doesn't perfectly weaves exposition and narrative into the gameplay.

Unlike Resident Evil 6, where it's like a multi-personality disorder patient wrote a 30 hour long screenplay for a puppet show based on a crappy anime. You get lost too easily, there's too many dangling loose ends, and it's filled with more plot holes like a hooker in Whitechapple 1888.

RE 6 had way to much junk in it

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:04 pm

The game and story are still enjoyable, but to put the story in simpler terms, It's all Ada's fault.

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:28 pm

I blame Wesker for the bad plot of RE6. If he wouldn't have gone and gotten himself blown up in a lava pit, we may have had a decent plot...

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:04 pm

Ssplain wrote:: I blame Wesker for the bad plot of RE6. If he wouldn't have gone and gotten himself blown up in a lava pit, we may have had a decent plot...

True, but considering what he was going o do, he would have to be killed then and there. I couldn't imagine 6 billion cries and scream of terror.

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:28 pm

Nobudy wrote:

Ssplain wrote:: I blame Wesker for the bad plot of RE6. If he wouldn't have gone and gotten himself blown up in a lava pit, we may have had a decent plot...

True, but considering what he was going o do, he would have to be killed then and there. I couldn't imagine 6 billion cries and scream of terror.

Hah! Could you imagine? Uroburos takes over the planet... The only chance for redemptions lies in the hands, and tentacles, of Lisa Trevor!

Okay, okay. Maybe it is a good thing Wesker went and got himself blown up in a lava pit...

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:09 pm

And Nemesis' "face rape tentacle".

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Shrike wrote:: I swear, if anybody could explain the plot of RE6 to me, and make some sense of it along the way, I'd shower him with riches and bitches.

The plot makes sense, it's just incredibly stupid.

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tldr version: My sarcasm isn't funny, Carla and Simmons are both morons, and Capcom's writers are almost as bad as Paul Anderson.

I just noticed that Jake and Ada's campaigns are mostly pointless

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:09 pm

Lol very nice. ^ Looks like it's time to "pony up the dough" Shrike tongue

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:32 pm

In other words, It's all Ada's fault.

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:47 am

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Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:57 am

Ssplain wrote:: I blame Wesker for the bad plot of RE6. If he wouldn't have gone and gotten himself blown up in a lava pit, we may have had a decent plot...

We had Wesker junior though?

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:42 pm

Jamesy wrote:

Ssplain wrote:: I blame Wesker for the bad plot of RE6. If he wouldn't have gone and gotten himself blown up in a lava pit, we may have had a decent plot...

We had Wesker junior though?

Wesker Jr will never fill his father's shoes!

Zombie supermanx77 Posts : 113 Join date : 2011-09-22

I did not really like 5 as a Resident Evil game. The game was not scary at all, the plot wasn't that great, and co op killed it. Back when I was a kid playing Resident Evil 2 I always wished the game would have co op or some type of MP though, guess be careful what you wish for lol. Another thing I really didn't like about with RE5 was from the trailer alone you pretty much everything. You knew Wesker was behind everything, why he did it, and it seemed to lack that thing that makes a Resident Evil game a Resident Evil game. It just didn't have that feel you get from 0-4 and CV. I thought 4 was better because you were alone most of the time and I don't count Ashley as someone equal to Sheva because Ashley can't fight and gets in the way to it kind of ads to the fear. Also in 4 it had that creepy atmosphere to it plus you really had no idea what was going on. You didn't know why the people in the village were infected, what infected them, and who was behind it. With 5 you kind of knew before the game even game out.

I am currently playing 6, finished Leons story and currently playing Chris's story. I have to say I like it a lot better then 5. I don't see where all the hate is coming from, but I just got it last for PC so naturally I am playing the game with all the fixes Capcom made. So far I found 6 to be much more scary then 5, at least on Leons story, but I don't like how the story seemed to be too far in when the game starts. However I do like that 4 different character story modes you get to play as. I will say 5 is much much much better then Operation Raccoon City though lol.

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:26 pm

toddx77 wrote:: I did not really like 5 as a Resident Evil game. The game was not scary at all, the plot wasn't that great, and co op killed it. Back when I was a kid playing Resident Evil 2 I always wished the game would have co op or some type of MP though, guess be careful what you wish for lol. Another thing I really didn't like about with RE5 was from the trailer alone you pretty much everything. You knew Wesker was behind everything, why he did it, and it seemed to lack that thing that makes a Resident Evil game a Resident Evil game. It just didn't have that feel you get from 0-4 and CV. I thought 4 was better because you were alone most of the time and I don't count Ashley as someone equal to Sheva because Ashley can't fight and gets in the way to it kind of ads to the fear. Also in 4 it had that creepy atmosphere to it plus you really had no idea what was going on. You didn't know why the people in the village were infected, what infected them, and who was behind it. With 5 you kind of knew before the game even game out.

I am currently playing 6, finished Leons story and currently playing Chris's story. I have to say I like it a lot better then 5. I don't see where all the hate is coming from, but I just got it last for PC so naturally I am playing the game with all the fixes Capcom made. So far I found 6 to be much more scary then 5, at least on Leons story, but I don't like how the story seemed to be too far in when the game starts. However I do like that 4 different character story modes you get to play as. I will say 5 is much much much better then Operation Raccoon City though lol.

Since when were the RE games scary? Ok maybe the first two playthroughs during REmake. But that's about it. Though in-universe, the reason 5 wasn't as "horror" like was because you're jumping into an outbreak prepared to fight rather than unknowingly entering an outbreak unprepared. If you watched Viral Campaign, you could see that Chris had nightmares about his time in Kijuju. I don't blame him. Fighting against an enhanced Las Plagas plus Wesker is pretty scary. Though it's not good to compare the new stuff to the old stuff. It's like comparing yourself from 17 years ago with yourself now. Big differences.

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:03 pm

A lot of people say the RE games were scary ever since the first one they played. That is unless they started with 5. I know I was scared playing 2, 3, CVX, 4, and in some points on what I have played so far in Revelations. Heck I even remember getting scared a few times in Outbreak. I have a friend who would not play RE3 anymore once he found out Nemesis could follow you through doors. Each person scares differently though.

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:25 pm

Ssplain wrote:: A lot of people say the RE games were scary ever since the first one they played. That is unless they started with 5. I know I was scared playing 2, 3, CVX, 4, and in some points on what I have played so far in Revelations. Heck I even remember getting scared a few times in Outbreak. I have a friend who would not play RE3 anymore once he found out Nemesis could follow you through doors. Each person scares differently though.

True. Since I first started the series when I was 13, it might explain why I don't find them scary.

Zombie supermanx77 Posts : 113 Join date : 2011-09-22

Nobudy wrote:: Since when were the RE games scary? Ok maybe the first two playthroughs during REmake. But that's about it. Though in-universe, the reason 5 wasn't as "horror" like was because you're jumping into an outbreak prepared to fight rather than unknowingly entering an outbreak unprepared. If you watched Viral Campaign, you could see that Chris had nightmares about his time in Kijuju. I don't blame him. Fighting against an enhanced Las Plagas plus Wesker is pretty scary. Though it's not good to compare the new stuff to the old stuff. It's like comparing yourself from 17 years ago with yourself now. Big differences.

I found all main games scary until I played 5. Granted I didn't find 4 as scary as 0-CV but still scary. Granted I was 12 when I started playing Resident Evil 2 and now I am 25 so that is probably a factor, but as I always said, having a lot of ammo, a partner, over the shoulder camera angle, quick time events to save you, and constant action around you it is kind of hard to be scared. Just think about it for a second. Imagine if the remake was over the shoulder like 5, Chris and Rebecca or Jill and Barry were always together, and you had a lot more ammo. Ya it would still be a scary game, I think Lost in Nightmares kind of proved that, but would it be as scary as it normally is? Like Ssplain said though everyone scares different. To this day I am still afraid of Lisa Trevor and her parts of the game are difficult for me to try and get through.

As for the whole thing with 5 being about going into an outbreak prepared I understand what Capcom was trying to do, but I felt like they could have done better or at least explained a bit more. I felt 6 did it a little bit better, but maybe that is just me. As for comparing yourself now and from 17 years ago your right it would be big differences. That nostalgia factor is one thing when looking at past Resident Evil games

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:15 am

toddx77 wrote:

Nobudy wrote:: Since when were the RE games scary? Ok maybe the first two playthroughs during REmake. But that's about it. Though in-universe, the reason 5 wasn't as "horror" like was because you're jumping into an outbreak prepared to fight rather than unknowingly entering an outbreak unprepared. If you watched Viral Campaign, you could see that Chris had nightmares about his time in Kijuju. I don't blame him. Fighting against an enhanced Las Plagas plus Wesker is pretty scary. Though it's not good to compare the new stuff to the old stuff. It's like comparing yourself from 17 years ago with yourself now. Big differences.

I found all main games scary until I played 5. Granted I didn't find 4 as scary as 0-CV but still scary. Granted I was 12 when I started playing Resident Evil 2 and now I am 25 so that is probably a factor, but as I always said, having a lot of ammo, a partner, over the shoulder camera angle, quick time events to save you, and constant action around you it is kind of hard to be scared. Just think about it for a second. Imagine if the remake was over the shoulder like 5, Chris and Rebecca or Jill and Barry were always together, and you had a lot more ammo. Ya it would still be a scary game, I think Lost in Nightmares kind of proved that, but would it be as scary as it normally is? Like Ssplain said though everyone scares different. To this day I am still afraid of Lisa Trevor and her parts of the game are difficult for me to try and get through.

As for the whole thing with 5 being about going into an outbreak prepared I understand what Capcom was trying to do, but I felt like they could have done better or at least explained a bit more. I felt 6 did it a little bit better, but maybe that is just me. As for comparing yourself now and from 17 years ago your right it would be big differences. That nostalgia factor is one thing when looking at past Resident Evil games

QTEs to save you? Ha I wish. One thing Gamespot complained about was QTEs. I use them as free reflex tests. But it was about time was got a proper dodge roll without having to do a QTE. As for the camera, that shouldn't be the thing that adds "horror" into a game. I don't have too much of a problem with it, but I found it annoying how you can't see the enemies right in front of you sometimes due to the camera forcing me to rely on auto-aim. Though if I went through these scenarios in real-life, I'd be terrified. To this day, I still wonder why Alpha and Bravo idiotically split up even though they were up against something they had no idea of. As for 5 preparing you for an outbreak, I think the B.S.A.A being the anti-B.O.W army is explanation enough.

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Nobudy wrote:: QTEs to save you? Ha I wish. One thing Gamespot complained about was QTEs. I use them as free reflex tests. But it was about time was got a proper dodge roll without having to do a QTE. As for the camera, that shouldn't be the thing that adds "horror" into a game. I don't have too much of a problem with it, but I found it annoying how you can't see the enemies right in front of you sometimes due to the camera forcing me to rely on auto-aim. Though if I went through these scenarios in real-life, I'd be terrified. To this day, I still wonder why Alpha and Bravo idiotically split up even though they were up against something they had no idea of. As for 5 preparing you for an outbreak, I think the B.S.A.A being the anti-B.O.W army is explanation enough.

Well by QTE saving you I mean how if you get attacked you can do one to take less damage. Like how in the hold game if a zombie or BOW got ahold of you then usually you would have to take the damage and let them attack you unlike now you can usually do a QTE and get them off you. Maybe it is nothing but for me it makes things a little less scary because if a BOW attacks me I know QTE could help me a bit and maybe do damage. As for QTE in general I totally agreed with Gamespot in their review on that. Leon had way too many QTE in his story, but at least Chris has less. Camera wise I have always felt the fixed camera angle added to the fear of Resident Evil. Dead Space 1 was plenty scary with the over the shoulder camera though so maybe I am just doing that thing again where I am comparing current RE games to the past to much lol. As for why Alpha and Bravo split up, I would chalk it up to Resident Evil logic. Just like how on Jill's story her, Chris, Wesker, and Barry run into the mansion together but Chris is not there lol.

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:56 am

toddx77 wrote:

Nobudy wrote:: QTEs to save you? Ha I wish. One thing Gamespot complained about was QTEs. I use them as free reflex tests. But it was about time was got a proper dodge roll without having to do a QTE. As for the camera, that shouldn't be the thing that adds "horror" into a game. I don't have too much of a problem with it, but I found it annoying how you can't see the enemies right in front of you sometimes due to the camera forcing me to rely on auto-aim. Though if I went through these scenarios in real-life, I'd be terrified. To this day, I still wonder why Alpha and Bravo idiotically split up even though they were up against something they had no idea of. As for 5 preparing you for an outbreak, I think the B.S.A.A being the anti-B.O.W army is explanation enough.

Well by QTE saving you I mean how if you get attacked you can do one to take less damage. Like how in the hold game if a zombie or BOW got ahold of you then usually you would have to take the damage and let them attack you unlike now you can usually do a QTE and get them off you. Maybe it is nothing but for me it makes things a little less scary because if a BOW attacks me I know QTE could help me a bit and maybe do damage. As for QTE in general I totally agreed with Gamespot in their review on that. Leon had way too many QTE in his story, but at least Chris has less. Camera wise I have always felt the fixed camera angle added to the fear of Resident Evil. Dead Space 1 was plenty scary with the over the shoulder camera though so maybe I am just doing that thing again where I am comparing current RE games to the past to much lol. As for why Alpha and Bravo split up, I would chalk it up to Resident Evil logic. Just like how on Jill's story her, Chris, Wesker, and Barry run into the mansion together but Chris is not there lol.

True for the QTEs, but realistically we should have been given the ability to at least dodge/break the grip before taking damage (like in 3 and rarely code veronica) since zombies don't appear to be stronger than the average human. So I always wondered how and why exactly they would let themselves get bitten (except in REmake where you had defense items.)

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:52 pm

Resident Evil 5 was good from my point of view, not the best, though. It had too many areas where it became an on-rails-shooter, such as Chapter 1-3, and if I'm remembering correctly, Chapter 2-1 and Chapter 3-4(only played through the game once so far). I've personally had enough of the Chronicles type of gameplay. Other aspects were really good, though.

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:50 pm

Ah the dreaded gun turret segment. Imagine how fast the chapter would have gone if we could use our regular weapons.

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:08 am

My least fav numbered Res Evil. Boring characters and the plot felt like a bunch of old Res Evil stories mixed together and put into a new location/made up a new virus. The gameplay was fun for the most part but was just a direct copy of RE4 for the most part and everything they changed was for the worst... and singleplayer was a nightmare.

6.5/10 Not terrible but certainly nothing I would recommend to anyone. Really the redeeming factor is that the gameplay was almost indentical to 4. Which was a fun game.. anything new they added to 5 sucked big time though.

Subject: Re: Views on RE5! Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:08 am

The virus wasn't exactly new. It came from the Progenitor Virus just like the T-Virus. The gameplay being similar to 4 is like how 0-CV were the same gameplay with different small/medium features yet no one had a problem with that...

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