Resident Evil 1.5

This elusive title... would you like to buy it? I would. Would you prefer this as a full game over RE2?

I have footage.

Is there any other answer than yes? I've been wanting that thing to see the daylight for so long.

I know, right?

LOL at Leon trying to Knife that gorilla thing.

Im content with re2, but i wouldnt mind experiencing this.

Just think about it. There still might be a person who has the demo version of the game. Well, although rumors say that Capcom destroyed every early version of the game for some reason.

This was in the video's description box: Capcom has repeatedly announced on their forums that they will not release this game for any console.
That's too bad :/

Btw. that bug thing that came through the floor kinda looked like an early Reaper.

It did, huh? Maybe it wasn't so cheap back then.

EDIT: Mass, you might find that burning room Leon was in slightly familiar. (HINT HINT: Outbreak)

Yeah, the rumor has that they used a lot of stuff from 1.5 in later RE games.

Mass Distraction wrote:

Yeah, the rumor has that they used a lot of stuff from 1.5 in later RE games.

RE0 has a lot of those

RE 1.5 looks like a really fun game, gotta love the petiton on the internet trying to bring this game to the surface.

If Capcom wants to show they still care about the fans that actually made those shit storms RE4 and RE5 possible in the first place, giving us a playable RE1.5 like we've been clamoring for for years now would be the perfect way. But I won't hold my breath.

Ghost Leader wrote:

If Capcom wants to show they still care about the fans that actually made those shit storms RE4 and RE5 possible in the first place, giving us a playable RE1.5 like we've been clamoring for for years now would be the perfect way. But I won't hold my breath.

Ok okay, lets not turn this into an re4 hate fest.

Spike991 wrote:

Ghost Leader wrote:

If Capcom wants to show they still care about the fans that actually made those shit storms RE4 and RE5 possible in the first place, giving us a playable RE1.5 like we've been clamoring for for years now would be the perfect way. But I won't hold my breath.

Ok okay, lets not turn this into an re4 hate fest.

Not trying to, I'm just stating my opinion on them, which can't be argued against since an opinion (regardless of what it is) is never wrong unless based on factually incorrect information.

Though maybe "disgrace" would have been a better word to use. As I've said before, when taken for what they are individually, I find them both to be great games. But I just feel they aren't very good Resident Evil games.

Ghost Leader wrote:

Spike991 wrote:

Ghost Leader wrote:

If Capcom wants to show they still care about the fans that actually made those shit storms RE4 and RE5 possible in the first place, giving us a playable RE1.5 like we've been clamoring for for years now would be the perfect way. But I won't hold my breath.

Ok okay, lets not turn this into an re4 hate fest.

Not trying to, I'm just stating my opinion on them, which can't be argued against since an opinion (regardless of what it is) is never wrong unless based on factually incorrect information.

Though maybe "disgrace" would have been a better word to use. As I've said before, when taken for what they are individually, I find them both to be great games. But I just feel they aren't very good Resident Evil games.

RE4 is a great game, and RE game.

I understand the complaints, some of them, but most are really ridiculous.

I've gone into it many times. RE4 has horror, survival, action, all that jazz. It pulled it all off very well too. Apparently well enough to where everybody and their mama recognized it, and it became overpopular.

I can gaurantee if RE4 wasn't so damn overpopular like it was, then it wouldn't get all these complaints.

I can see why Mikami labelled it dull and boring

TeRoR KiD wrote:

I can see why Mikami labelled it dull and boring

I dont recall that.

any proof.

also, logically if re4 has more action than previous installments, how could it be dull?

theres your sign.

Spike991 wrote:

also, logically if re4 has more action than previous installments, how could it be dull?

It could easily be dull and boring because not everybody likes or wants RE to be a third person Call of Duty.

Spike991 wrote:

TeRoR KiD wrote:

I can see why Mikami labelled it dull and boring

I dont recall that.

any proof.

also, logically if re4 has more action than previous installments, how could it be dull?

theres your sign.

In comparison to the final product it is definitely dull and boring. I read that on wikipedia for RE2 which can be considered as much proof as you want it to be.

TeRoR KiD wrote:

I read that on wikipedia

Spike doesn't believe in wikis.

Mass Distraction wrote:

TeRoR KiD wrote:

I read that on wikipedia

Spike doesn't believe in wikis.

Wikis are only as right as the editors editing them. But the problem with most wikis is that everyone who edits on one thinks he's right and everyone else is wrong.

Ghost Leader wrote:

Spike991 wrote:

also, logically if re4 has more action than previous installments, how could it be dull?

It could easily be dull and boring because not everybody likes or wants RE to be a third person Call of Duty.

Dont even try to feed me that bull.

re4 is not even close to being a 3rd person CoD.

re4 was not the beginning of action becoming a larger part of the RE games. its just the one that gets all the hate for it.

@Kid, i dont want it to be proof at all, so it isnt.

the final product of re4 was terrific. definately not deserving of all the complaints.

it had action, horror, survival, the atmosphere, audio, VA, etc, it was all great.

it wasnt perfect, and ive got my complaints, but all of the RE games have their shortcomings.

re4 doesnt need to be crucified.

Spike991 wrote:

Ghost Leader wrote:

Spike991 wrote:

also, logically if re4 has more action than previous installments, how could it be dull?

It could easily be dull and boring because not everybody likes or wants RE to be a third person Call of Duty.

Dont even try to feed me that bull.

re4 is not even close to being a 3rd person CoD.

re4 was not the beginning of action becoming a larger part of the RE games. its just the one that gets all the hate for it.

How many RE games before RE4 were all about running and gunning? None. Dead Aim came close to it, but it still managed to maintain the RE feel. Then here comes RE4 where the goal is to shoot through everything that stands in your way, with enough ammunition to supply a battalion of Marines for 6 months in Douchbagistan. Couple that with RE4's lackluster plot and you have what, in effect, is a third-person Call of Duty game.

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@Kid, i dont want it to be proof at all, so it isnt.

the final product of re4 was terrific. definately not deserving of all the complaints.

it had action, horror, survival, the atmosphere, audio, VA, etc, it was all great.

it wasnt perfect, and ive got my complaints, but all of the RE games have their shortcomings.

re4 doesnt need to be crucified.

Okay, there's been a bit of confusion here. The "dull and boring" bit wasn't in reference to RE4, but to RE1.5. And considering that the claim has a source to back it up, I'm inclined to believe it's true (that Shinji Mikami said it, not that I necessarily agree with it).

Spike, I really don't understand what you have against wikis. Wikipedia's accuracy rate stands at about 80% compared to 95 to 96% for other resources (clicky for proof), which is pretty damn good for a free-to-edit encyclopedia. Additionally, a study showed that Wikipedia as a reliable source is rated much higher by experts than non-experts (clicky for proof).

Now don't make me pull out the Chewbacca defense. on you.

Ghost Leader wrote:

Spike991 wrote:

Ghost Leader wrote:

Spike991 wrote:

also, logically if re4 has more action than previous installments, how could it be dull?

It could easily be dull and boring because not everybody likes or wants RE to be a third person Call of Duty.

Dont even try to feed me that bull.

re4 is not even close to being a 3rd person CoD.

re4 was not the beginning of action becoming a larger part of the RE games. its just the one that gets all the hate for it.

How many RE games before RE4 were all about running and gunning? None. Dead Aim came close to it, but it still managed to maintain the RE feel. Then here comes RE4 where the goal is to shoot through everything that stands in your way, with enough ammunition to supply a battalion of Marines for 6 months in Douchbagistan. Couple that with RE4's lackluster plot and you have what, in effect, is a third-person Call of Duty game.

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@Kid, i dont want it to be proof at all, so it isnt.

the final product of re4 was terrific. definately not deserving of all the complaints.

it had action, horror, survival, the atmosphere, audio, VA, etc, it was all great.

it wasnt perfect, and ive got my complaints, but all of the RE games have their shortcomings.

re4 doesnt need to be crucified.

Okay, there's been a bit of confusion here. The "dull and boring" bit wasn't in reference to RE4, but to RE1.5. And considering that the claim has a source to back it up, I'm inclined to believe it's true (that Shinji Mikami said it, not that I necessarily agree with it).

Spike, I really don't understand what you have against wikis. Wikipedia's accuracy rate stands at about 80% compared to 95 to 96% for other resources (clicky for proof), which is pretty damn good for a free-to-edit encyclopedia. Additionally, a study showed that Wikipedia as a reliable source is rated much higher by experts than non-experts (clicky for proof).

Now don't make me pull out the Chewbacca defense. on you.

There was not that much ammo. people forget about the great spots in re4, and just remember the exagerations like you've mentioned.

i cannot seriously believe that you played re4 and had a dumb and dull expression on your face the entire time.

i challenge anybody who makes any sort of declaration like that to sit down and film a playthrough, or hell, even a mercs run.

the intensity of the survival, and horror, overwhelming situations, big ass guys with double-bladed chainsaws is undeniable.

Gl, i would very much enjoy a fair review of re4 from you.

going over all the pros and cons.

Spike991 wrote:

There was not that much ammo. people forget about the great spots in re4, and just remember the exagerations like you've mentioned.

That's not an exaggeration, there was way too much ammo in the game. I could go through it and shoot every ganado I came upon without any worry of running out.

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i cannot seriously believe that you played re4 and had a dumb and dull expression on your face the entire time.

Again, "dumb and dull" was referring to RE 1.5. Would I consider RE4/5 on individual basis as dumb or dull? No. But that play style is not Resident Evil.

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i challenge anybody who makes any sort of declaration like that to sit down and film a playthrough

What would that prove?

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, or hell, even a mercs run.

RE4-era mercs is a completely different animal to what was introduced in RE3. In RE3 it was about strategy. You had to reach an end point without running out of ammo (which wasn't handed out freely with each enemy killed) or dying. You had to preserve what ammo you had because it was worth its weight in gold and carefully decide what needed to be killed and what you could circumvent. In RE4/5, it's about shooting everything in sight until time runs out, stopping only to reload.

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the intensity of the survival

With that much ammo, it's hard not to survive.

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and horror

Yes, the claustrophobia, the classic horror movie atmosphere... no, wait, that's original RE I'm thinking of.

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overwhelming situations

I can't tell you how many times I've been in those in Call of Duty. With the amount of ammo in RE4, the outcome is never any different.

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big ass guys with double-bladed chainsaws is undeniable.

I enjoy Texas Chainsaw Massacre, too. Erm, wait...

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Gl, i would very much enjoy a fair review of re4 from you.

going over all the pros and cons.

Pros:
Leon getting his head sawed off.
Ada is hawt.

Cons:
Everything else.

Score:
C+. As an RE game, F-.

Ghost Leader wrote:

Spike991 wrote:

There was not that much ammo. people forget about the great spots in re4, and just remember the exagerations like you've mentioned.

That's not an exaggeration, there was way too much ammo in the game. I could go through it and shoot every ganado I came upon without any worry of running out.

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i cannot seriously believe that you played re4 and had a dumb and dull expression on your face the entire time.

Again, "dumb and dull" was referring to RE 1.5. Would I consider RE4/5 on individual basis as dumb or dull? No. But that play style is not Resident Evil.

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i challenge anybody who makes any sort of declaration like that to sit down and film a playthrough

What would that prove?

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, or hell, even a mercs run.

RE4-era mercs is a completely different animal to what was introduced in RE3. In RE3 it was about strategy. You had to reach an end point without running out of ammo (which wasn't handed out freely with each enemy killed) or dying. You had to preserve what ammo you had because it was worth its weight in gold and carefully decide what needed to be killed and what you could circumvent. In RE4/5, it's about shooting everything in sight until time runs out, stopping only to reload.

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the intensity of the survival

With that much ammo, it's hard not to survive.

Quote :

and horror

Yes, the claustrophobia, the classic horror movie atmosphere... no, wait, that's original RE I'm thinking of.

Quote :

overwhelming situations

I can't tell you how many times I've been in those in Call of Duty. With the amount of ammo in RE4, the outcome is never any different.

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big ass guys with double-bladed chainsaws is undeniable.

I enjoy Texas Chainsaw Massacre, too. Erm, wait...

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Gl, i would very much enjoy a fair review of re4 from you.

going over all the pros and cons.

Pros:
Leon getting his head sawed off.
Ada is hawt.

Cons:
Everything else.

Score:
C+. As an RE game, F-.

I meant a serious review without prejudice, where you call it right down the middle like bill alfonso.

bs. there was ammo whenever you killed enemies, which made it less scarce, as you werent penalized like you were in, shall we say, re1, but there wasnt so much to say it was hard not to survive.

What would you playing through prove? undoubtedly everything im saying. i mean, re4 isnt scary, it has too much horror and stupid comments like that are at tne very least, completely absurd.

basically, anybody can post how shitty re4 was, and how little it scares them, and how little effort they have to put into surviving, but for somebody to actually sit there and show it, to walk the walk, that would be a pretty legit way to prove it.

heres a good example of survival, the fucking verdugo, remember that thing. relentlessly attacking you, making you struggle to stay alive with whatever small amount of health you may have, especially when your ammo doesnt do much. how is that not the legal definition of Resident Evil.

oh yeah, i forgot that was directed at 1.5, so just disregard that part.

now gl, you know i respect your opinion more than i would, random-ass new ref user, you, like me, and others here, are true re fans, who know their shit, and have the experience to back it up, but im cant entertain the idea that you find re4 so atrocious.

i also dont jump on the re4 hate wagon and accept, re4 was a good game but a horrible re game.

thats the kind of bullshit that makes me kinda want the series to just get get Fucked up, with a capital F, just so everyone can look back at how appropriate re4 was, and maybe think, 'hmmm, maybe i didnt have it so bad with re4'.

re4 has all the ingredients of re. as ive said, it has a few things that might be....less desirable, but so does every re game.

i dont hate wikis or wikipedia, just re wiki.

yes, that sweaty-palms intensity you can get in mercs is not exclusive to re4 mercs, or just re in general, but for some reason the atmosphere, the horror and all the great stuff in re4 is looked at as being inferior, and certain things are exaggerated to a ridiculous extent.

the re play style?

the controls, even up to re5, are very much re. if you play re4 on gc, the controls are very much like that of the REmake.

you move with the same stick, you aim with the same button, shoot, run, map, inventory, etc, they're all the same. there is a new camera, and is that really an issue?

oh and little things like the quick knife and melee attacks, those arent problems are they?

you could kick with kevin in outbreak, manually reload during the gameplay in outbreak, and the knife not collecting dust in the item box, thats cool with me.

Spike991 wrote:

I meant a serious review without prejudice, where you call it right down the middle like bill alfonso.

bs. there was ammo whenever you killed enemies, which made it less scarce, as you werent penalized like you were in, shall we say, re1, but there wasnt so much to say it was hard not to survive.

What would you playing through prove? undoubtedly everything im saying. i mean, re4 isnt scary, it has too much horror and stupid comments like that are at tne very least, completely absurd.

basically, anybody can post how shitty re4 was, and how little it scares them, and how little effort they have to put into surviving, but for somebody to actually sit there and show it, to walk the walk, that would be a pretty legit way to prove it.

heres a good example of survival, the fucking verdugo, remember that thing. relentlessly attacking you, making you struggle to stay alive with whatever small amount of health you may have, especially when your ammo doesnt do much. how is that not the legal definition of Resident Evil.

oh yeah, i forgot that was directed at 1.5, so just disregard that part.

now gl, you know i respect your opinion more than i would, random-ass new ref user, you, like me, and others here, are true re fans, who know their shit, and have the experience to back it up, but im cant entertain the idea that you find re4 so atrocious.

i also dont jump on the re4 hate wagon and accept, re4 was a good game but a horrible re game.

thats the kind of bullshit that makes me kinda want the series to just get get Fucked up, with a capital F, just so everyone can look back at how appropriate re4 was, and maybe think, 'hmmm, maybe i didnt have it so bad with re4'.

re4 has all the ingredients of re. as ive said, it has a few things that might be....less desirable, but so does every re game.

i dont hate wikis or wikipedia, just re wiki.

yes, that sweaty-palms intensity you can get in mercs is not exclusive to re4 mercs, or just re in general, but for some reason the atmosphere, the horror and all the great stuff in re4 is looked at as being inferior, and certain things are exaggerated to a ridiculous extent.

the re play style?

the controls, even up to re5, are very much re. if you play re4 on gc, the controls are very much like that of the REmake.

you move with the same stick, you aim with the same button, shoot, run, map, inventory, etc, they're all the same. there is a new camera, and is that really an issue?

oh and little things like the quick knife and melee attacks, those arent problems are they?

you could kick with kevin in outbreak, manually reload during the gameplay in outbreak, and the knife not collecting dust in the item box, thats cool with me.

RE4 in and of itself is not an atrocious game, but *as an RE game*, it is inferior. Capcom markets it as a survival horror game, but it's a straight up action shooter in every way. Resident Evil, for me, was never about shooting everything in sight. It was a game I played after watching Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Halloween. It was the video game counterpart of a horror movie to me. Not being able to see around that next corner because the camera angle didn't point that was was part of the whole experience for me. An important part (which ended up axed thanks to the whining and crying of people who didn't initially like the games). Why is it nobody can ever understand this?

Anyhow, Spike, this thread is for RE 1.5, so we should keep it on track. Let's take it to PM or its own topic, shall we?