Who/what is Ivy in RE2?

I know the licker gets its name from an operation report (by "David Ford" IIRC) saying the police officers have tentatively named the creature the "licker" because of its long piercing tongue. I keep seeing references on this forum and other places to the "ivy" creature(s). By process of elimination I'm thinking it must be the plants in the laboratory that spit acid at you but I can't think of anything in RE2 that gives them the name "ivy". Can anyone help me out here?

Yes, that. That thing in the labs....or those things in there...they are Ivy's.

But where did that name come from? In RE1 you find some slides that can be viewed on a projector that tell you the names of all the creatures developed by Umbrella (Cerberus, Neptune, Tyrant, etc.). I still have no clue where in the game you find out that those things are called ivies.

zeolite wrote:

I know the licker gets its name from an operation report (by "David Ford" IIRC) saying the police officers have tentatively named the creature the "licker" because of its long piercing tongue. I keep seeing references on this forum and other places to the "ivy" creature(s). By process of elimination I'm thinking it must be the plants in the laboratory that spit acid at you but I can't think of anything in RE2 that gives them the name "ivy". Can anyone help me out here?

I believe in RE2 wasn't it referred to as a "lance-like toungue"? I know I've read both that and "long piercing tongue", but I believe it was different from RE2 to UC's Files.

As for how it was named? Probably named by the Umbrella scientists that created it. I mean, sure, Ivy isn't on the slideshow seen in RE1 under the mansion, and we didn't find a File for it like for Plant 42, but you know what? We also never saw Jake's mother, but we know Wesker got some action from some lady, right? See, he's not gay! Maybe he just didn't really like Excella. And Chris is his nemesis. Anyway, by the same logic, there has to be a slideshow somewhere in the universe of RE that shows Ivies, Chimeras, Giant Moth, El Gigante, etc.

Officially, Ivy is called Plant 43.

http://www.residentevilumbrella.webs.com/ivyplants.htm

As to where the "Ivy" name came from, I don't recall ever finding anything in the games. The reason they don't appear in the slideshow in RE1 is because they likely hadn't been created yet.

I think there is a File in Umbrella Chronicles.

There won't be a file in UC Ivy is an unofficial name Plant 43 was given, its real name for all intents and purposes is Plant 43. Its original predecessor was the infamous Plant 42 from the Guardhouse in RE 1. Its updated version the Ivy + YX is encountered in Darkside Chronicles that is all Ivy is, a biped plant BOW that spews acid or wraps you with its vines and poisons you.

DXP wrote:

poisons you.

Isn't that a different kind of Ivy, though? Like, the ones made stronger by the BOW gas or something. At least I don't remember ever getting poisoned by the regular Ivies.

Darkside Chronicles had files that used the name Ivy, by the way.

Mass Distraction wrote:

DXP wrote:

poisons you.

Isn't that a different kind of Ivy, though? Like, the ones made stronger by the BOW gas or something.

Yeah, the red Ivy. The green ones mutate into them if you release the P-Epsilon gas.

DXP wrote:

There won't be a file in UC Ivy is an unofficial name Plant 43 was given, its real name for all intents and purposes is Plant 43. Its original predecessor was the infamous Plant 42 from the Guardhouse in RE 1. Its updated version the Ivy + YX is encountered in Darkside Chronicles that is all Ivy is, a biped plant BOW that spews acid or wraps you with its vines and poisons you.

No, I'm pretty sure I read a File about the Ivy in UC.

Ghost Leader wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

DXP wrote:

poisons you.

Isn't that a different kind of Ivy, though? Like, the ones made stronger by the BOW gas or something.

Yeah, the red Ivy. The green ones mutate into them if you release the P-Epsilon gas.

Yes, that was the name of the gas. I wasn't sure, despite playing through the game numerous times I don't think I've ever released the gas though, I'd rather deal with instakill lickers than carry blue herbs around.

PWNERX wrote:

DXP wrote:

There won't be a file in UC

No, I'm pretty sure I read a File about the Ivy in UC.

I think the file you're talking about was named "Ivy Notes", yes? Just checked on IGN. In addition to that there were at least two files on Ivies in Darkside Chronicles, if I remember correctly.

Mass Distraction wrote:

Ghost Leader wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

DXP wrote:

poisons you.

Isn't that a different kind of Ivy, though? Like, the ones made stronger by the BOW gas or something.

Yeah, the red Ivy. The green ones mutate into them if you release the P-Epsilon gas.

Yes, that was the name of the gas. I wasn't sure, despite playing through the game numerous times I don't think I've ever released the gas though, I'd rather deal with instakill lickers than carry blue herbs around.

They really aren't all that much of a threat, you just have to keep out of their range.

Mass Distraction wrote:

Ghost Leader wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

DXP wrote:

poisons you.

Isn't that a different kind of Ivy, though? Like, the ones made stronger by the BOW gas or something.

Yeah, the red Ivy. The green ones mutate into them if you release the P-Epsilon gas.

Yes, that was the name of the gas. I wasn't sure, despite playing through the game numerous times I don't think I've ever released the gas though, I'd rather deal with instakill lickers than carry blue herbs around.

PWNERX wrote:

DXP wrote:

There won't be a file in UC

No, I'm pretty sure I read a File about the Ivy in UC.

I think the file you're talking about was named "Ivy Notes", yes? Just checked on IGN. In addition to that there were at least two files on Ivies in Darkside Chronicles, if I remember correctly.

I was riiiiggghhhhhtttt.....

Ghost Leader wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

Ghost Leader wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

DXP wrote:

poisons you.

Isn't that a different kind of Ivy, though? Like, the ones made stronger by the BOW gas or something.

Yeah, the red Ivy. The green ones mutate into them if you release the P-Epsilon gas.

Yes, that was the name of the gas. I wasn't sure, despite playing through the game numerous times I don't think I've ever released the gas though, I'd rather deal with instakill lickers than carry blue herbs around.

They really aren't all that much of a threat, you just have to keep out of their range.

Eh, I already hate killing the regular Ivies so I don't want anymore hassle to that. I would have to carry a grenade launcher with flame rounds with me too. I'm much better killing lickers with a shotgun that has way more ammo.

I guess this all comes to the traumatizing moment I was instakilled by an Ivy after not saving at all.

Mass Distraction wrote:

Isn't that a different kind of Ivy, though? Like, the ones made stronger by the BOW gas or something. At least I don't remember ever getting poisoned by the regular Ivies.

Darkside Chronicles had files that used the name Ivy, by the way.

Both versions can poison you, as for that file in DSC it doesn't count towards Capcom's original canon. Ivy is a name given too it its not its real code name, Plant 43 is that...of course though when you have the capcon now they love nothing more than retconning shit.

DXP wrote:

Mass Distraction wrote:

Isn't that a different kind of Ivy, though? Like, the ones made stronger by the BOW gas or something. At least I don't remember ever getting poisoned by the regular Ivies.

Darkside Chronicles had files that used the name Ivy, by the way.

Both versions can poison you, as for that file in DSC it doesn't count towards Capcom's original canon. Ivy is a name given too it its not its real code name, Plant 43 is that...of course though when you have the capcon now they love nothing more than retconning shit.

Retcon or not, it's still canon. Of course it's not a real codename, it's a nickname given to the creature. It's not like the people not working for Umbrella just mysteriously knew the codename or something.

Ivy looks like a humanoid plant. Maybe it's a result of fusing human genes and plant seeds and designing them to adapt to the bipedal environment. Then again, I'm not sure. The fusion of genetic material looks pretty complex to me.

Pau Diaz wrote:

Ivy looks like a humanoid plant. Maybe it's a result of fusing human genes and plant seeds and designing them to adapt to the bipedal environment. Then again, I'm not sure. The fusion of genetic material looks pretty complex to me.

Well yeah, I'm pretty sure there was a document that described how a handful of scientists went and dug a hole and then planted some plant seeds and a human body in the ground with some T-virus and after awhile an Ivy sprouted.

Spike 4:20 wrote:

Pau Diaz wrote:

Ivy looks like a humanoid plant. Maybe it's a result of fusing human genes and plant seeds and designing them to adapt to the bipedal environment. Then again, I'm not sure. The fusion of genetic material looks pretty complex to me.

Well yeah, I'm pretty sure there was a document that described how a handful of scientists went and dug a hole and then planted some plant seeds and a human body in the ground with some T-virus and after awhile an Ivy sprouted.

Yeah, this sounds very likely. The T-Virus assimilates new genetic material, so it makes sense that the seeds and the the substance of the human body came together to make a new entity. I wish we'd have seen it in action. It would've been great.

Pau Diaz wrote:

Spike 4:20 wrote:

Pau Diaz wrote:

Ivy looks like a humanoid plant. Maybe it's a result of fusing human genes and plant seeds and designing them to adapt to the bipedal environment. Then again, I'm not sure. The fusion of genetic material looks pretty complex to me.

Well yeah, I'm pretty sure there was a document that described how a handful of scientists went and dug a hole and then planted some plant seeds and a human body in the ground with some T-virus and after awhile an Ivy sprouted.

Yeah, this sounds very likely. The T-Virus assimilates new genetic material, so it makes sense that the seeds and the the substance of the human body came together to make a new entity. I wish we'd have seen it in action. It would've been great.

It's a process they called "Photosynthesis". I don't remember where that File was at. I'll get back to ya on that one. 

I always wondered what the P-Epsilon gas did. I assumed it made enemies easier to kill. I can't believe I never noticed that it makes the "Ivy" plants turn red.

P-Epsilon was supposed to destroy the infected in case of an accident. But over time the plants developed antibodies to the gas, so when you activated it, it actually made them more potent and poisonous.

Two related questions:

1. Everybody knows the snake in RE1 is called "Yawn" because of the noise it makes. I'm guessing that not canon, it's just a nickname that every RE1 fan in the world seems to know, probably invented in some strategy guide long ago.

2. Why do people refer to Tyrant 103 from RE2 as Mr. X?

zeolite wrote:

Two related questions:

1. Everybody knows the snake in RE1 is called "Yawn" because of the noise it makes. I'm guessing that not canon, it's just a nickname that every RE1 fan in the world seems to know, probably invented in some strategy guide long ago.

2. Why do people refer to Tyrant 103 from RE2 as Mr. X?

1. The name is mentioned in the Japan exclusive Capcom book Inside of Biohazard and later in the files of Umbrella Chronicles, namely the "Yawn Notes". The reason for the naming you mentioned is correct and apparently, according to the book, the name was given by the Arklay Laboratory team.

2. It seems that the name came from the merchandise. For example, the Palisades figure of the character is titled on the box as Mr. X. The name was also used by Claire in the novelization of RE2.

It's not for the noise it makes, it's because it appears to be yawning when it opens its mouth.