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Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Which game had the darkest plot? Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:45 pm | |
| If you ask me, it narrows down to Nemesis at 1st, 2, 6, 5, Revelations, 1, 0, CV, and 4. The reason I had Nemesis at top is because of Nemesis himself, a relentless creature that'll stop at nothing to kill you along with the fact that your entire hometown is done for. RE2 is pretty much the same for Nemesis except that fact that Leon and Claire were completely new to zombies, Tyrants, and B.O.Ws whereas Jill knew about these things at this point in time. Six, Five, and Revelations pretty much had the villain intentionally trying to spread their respective viruses globally. The rest were pretty much contained to their own respective areas, but 1 and 0 had character experiencing zombies for the first time. CV and 4 were kinda self contained in a way. |
| | | Ssplain Crimson Head
ResidentJsee Steam : Resident Jsee Posts : 773 Join date : 2013-06-18 Age : 34 Location : Some kind of room
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:02 pm | |
| I think the Outbreak games had the darkest plot IMO. I felt like the Outbreak games were really dark all together. None of the characters had any idea what was going on and no experience with the monsters. I mean, Cindy was a waitress and Jim was a subway attendant. Nothing ever got any better for the characters and well, we all know what happens to Raccoon City. |
| | | Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:16 pm | |
| - Ssplain wrote:
- I think the Outbreak games had the darkest plot IMO.
I felt like the Outbreak games were really dark all together. None of the characters had any idea what was going on and no experience with the monsters. I mean, Cindy was a waitress and Jim was a subway attendant. Nothing ever got any better for the characters and well, we all know what happens to Raccoon City. I keep forgetting about Outbreak. Is it canon to the story? I think it is because no way are Jill, Leon, Claire, Sherry, Ada, and Hunk the only survivors. |
| | | Industrial Ridden RPD Officer
Jagerdu Posts : 395 Join date : 2013-01-02 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:47 pm | |
| I agree with Outbreak, especially the tone of music that plays at the ending for all the characters. If I had to choose from one of the main games from the main storyline, it would probably have to be RE6. So much death and destruction in there. I LOVE IT! I always love seeing innocent people getting wiped out like that. |
| | | Ssplain Crimson Head
ResidentJsee Steam : Resident Jsee Posts : 773 Join date : 2013-06-18 Age : 34 Location : Some kind of room
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:37 am | |
| - Nobudy wrote:
- Ssplain wrote:
- I think the Outbreak games had the darkest plot IMO.
I felt like the Outbreak games were really dark all together. None of the characters had any idea what was going on and no experience with the monsters. I mean, Cindy was a waitress and Jim was a subway attendant. Nothing ever got any better for the characters and well, we all know what happens to Raccoon City. I keep forgetting about Outbreak. Is it canon to the story? I think it is because no way are Jill, Leon, Claire, Sherry, Ada, and Hunk the only survivors. It is not actually considered canon, but I do not understand why. The games tied up several loose ends too the main series and did not directly interfere with the story of them. It just filled in what a bunch of lesser characters were up too during the events. Also, if it was declared to be canon, which ending would be the right one? If they did not want there to be any other survivors they could have said the bad endings are canon. Or that only a few of the characters made it out while others did not. I know I will get flak for this, but in my mind I take the stories as canon, because they indirectly tie into the main games without messing with the story. They are highly underrated IMO. |
| | | Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:50 am | |
| - Ssplain wrote:
- Nobudy wrote:
- Ssplain wrote:
- I think the Outbreak games had the darkest plot IMO.
I felt like the Outbreak games were really dark all together. None of the characters had any idea what was going on and no experience with the monsters. I mean, Cindy was a waitress and Jim was a subway attendant. Nothing ever got any better for the characters and well, we all know what happens to Raccoon City. I keep forgetting about Outbreak. Is it canon to the story? I think it is because no way are Jill, Leon, Claire, Sherry, Ada, and Hunk the only survivors. It is not actually considered canon, but I do not understand why. The games tied up several loose ends too the main series and did not directly interfere with the story of them. It just filled in what a bunch of lesser characters were up too during the events. Also, if it was declared to be canon, which ending would be the right one? If they did not want there to be any other survivors they could have said the bad endings are canon. Or that only a few of the characters made it out while others did not. I know I will get flak for this, but in my mind I take the stories as canon, because they indirectly tie into the main games without messing with the story. They are highly underrated IMO. Seriously? Why is it that only the main characters are considered the only survivors? It's like in 6 how Leon and Helena are the only known survivors of Tall Oaks and Tachi. If it doesn't contradict anything in the story, it should be canon. |
| | | Ssplain Crimson Head
ResidentJsee Steam : Resident Jsee Posts : 773 Join date : 2013-06-18 Age : 34 Location : Some kind of room
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:56 am | |
| I am with you %110 on this. It would have added a nice element if some of the characters from Outbreak did survive. I thought Alyssa Ashcroft was going to join the fray when I watched her ending! |
| | | Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:02 am | |
| Plus, it adds video game realism. I've never played Outbreak before though. |
| | | PWNERX Leech Zombie
PWNER-XIII Steam : pwner_xiii Posts : 2156 Join date : 2013-01-04 Age : 27 Location : On the Edge of Reality
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:43 am | |
| Now that I think about it: In Outbreak 1, NPC Yoko always is found dead in BFP scenario, and George in DD. In Outbreak 2, NPC David in EotR, Cindy in WT, Alyssa in FlB, leaving Kevin, Jim, and Mark. Mark is old as schmuck, Jim is a coward, Kevin is a wannabe Leon. |
| | | Vandal Admin
Posts : 4867 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 32 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:14 pm | |
| I felt a lot of Resident Evil was campy. Though reading notes of people's last hours before turning were always depressing. |
| | | Shrike RPD Officer
Posts : 241 Join date : 2013-04-01 Location : Silent Hill
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:44 am | |
| Outbreak. Out of the numbered games, Nemesis. There are so many corpses around you in Nemesis (including the people who you saw/heard die) and the constant howling of zombies you hear while out on the streets of the city that it makes for the most tragic RE title. |
| | | Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:42 am | |
| I vote for the Survivor series. I really wish those games were remade into a Chronicles title. - Ssplain wrote:
- Nobudy wrote:
- Ssplain wrote:
- I think the Outbreak games had the darkest plot IMO.
I felt like the Outbreak games were really dark all together. None of the characters had any idea what was going on and no experience with the monsters. I mean, Cindy was a waitress and Jim was a subway attendant. Nothing ever got any better for the characters and well, we all know what happens to Raccoon City. I keep forgetting about Outbreak. Is it canon to the story? I think it is because no way are Jill, Leon, Claire, Sherry, Ada, and Hunk the only survivors. It is not actually considered canon, but I do not understand why. The games tied up several loose ends too the main series and did not directly interfere with the story of them. It just filled in what a bunch of lesser characters were up too during the events. Also, if it was declared to be canon, which ending would be the right one? If they did not want there to be any other survivors they could have said the bad endings are canon. Or that only a few of the characters made it out while others did not. I know I will get flak for this, but in my mind I take the stories as canon, because they indirectly tie into the main games without messing with the story. They are highly underrated IMO. The Outbreak series is kind of on the edge, really. They can't be exclusively count as not canon but there has never been a straight word from the developers that they are. However, the T-0400TP from File#2 does appear in a canon portion of Darkside Chronicles where Ada battles him. This, in itself, does give the game ties to the main canon. I also like the fact that we saw what else Nicholai was up to in the city while he wasn't on screen in RE3. They seriously should give him an appearance again. |
| | | Nobudy Hunter
Clowngoon Posts : 1078 Join date : 2012-04-17 Age : 28 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:20 am | |
| - Mass Distraction wrote:
- I vote for the Survivor series. I really wish those games were remade into a Chronicles title.
- Ssplain wrote:
- Nobudy wrote:
- Ssplain wrote:
- I think the Outbreak games had the darkest plot IMO.
I felt like the Outbreak games were really dark all together. None of the characters had any idea what was going on and no experience with the monsters. I mean, Cindy was a waitress and Jim was a subway attendant. Nothing ever got any better for the characters and well, we all know what happens to Raccoon City. I keep forgetting about Outbreak. Is it canon to the story? I think it is because no way are Jill, Leon, Claire, Sherry, Ada, and Hunk the only survivors. It is not actually considered canon, but I do not understand why. The games tied up several loose ends too the main series and did not directly interfere with the story of them. It just filled in what a bunch of lesser characters were up too during the events. Also, if it was declared to be canon, which ending would be the right one? If they did not want there to be any other survivors they could have said the bad endings are canon. Or that only a few of the characters made it out while others did not. I know I will get flak for this, but in my mind I take the stories as canon, because they indirectly tie into the main games without messing with the story. They are highly underrated IMO. The Outbreak series is kind of on the edge, really. They can't be exclusively count as not canon but there has never been a straight word from the developers that they are. However, the T-0400TP from File#2 does appear in a canon portion of Darkside Chronicles where Ada battles him. This, in itself, does give the game ties to the main canon. I also like the fact that we saw what else Nicholai was up to in the city while he wasn't on screen in RE3. They seriously should give him an appearance again. This shall be my headcanon. |
| | | Ssplain Crimson Head
ResidentJsee Steam : Resident Jsee Posts : 773 Join date : 2013-06-18 Age : 34 Location : Some kind of room
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:57 pm | |
| - Nobudy wrote:
- Mass Distraction wrote:
- I vote for the Survivor series. I really wish those games were remade into a Chronicles title.
- Ssplain wrote:
- Nobudy wrote:
- Ssplain wrote:
- I think the Outbreak games had the darkest plot IMO.
I felt like the Outbreak games were really dark all together. None of the characters had any idea what was going on and no experience with the monsters. I mean, Cindy was a waitress and Jim was a subway attendant. Nothing ever got any better for the characters and well, we all know what happens to Raccoon City. I keep forgetting about Outbreak. Is it canon to the story? I think it is because no way are Jill, Leon, Claire, Sherry, Ada, and Hunk the only survivors. It is not actually considered canon, but I do not understand why. The games tied up several loose ends too the main series and did not directly interfere with the story of them. It just filled in what a bunch of lesser characters were up too during the events. Also, if it was declared to be canon, which ending would be the right one? If they did not want there to be any other survivors they could have said the bad endings are canon. Or that only a few of the characters made it out while others did not. I know I will get flak for this, but in my mind I take the stories as canon, because they indirectly tie into the main games without messing with the story. They are highly underrated IMO. The Outbreak series is kind of on the edge, really. They can't be exclusively count as not canon but there has never been a straight word from the developers that they are. However, the T-0400TP from File#2 does appear in a canon portion of Darkside Chronicles where Ada battles him. This, in itself, does give the game ties to the main canon. I also like the fact that we saw what else Nicholai was up to in the city while he wasn't on screen in RE3. They seriously should give him an appearance again. This shall be my headcanon. Yes that was a very nice touch with Nicholai. Also in File #2 they show you how Marvin gets infected and left behind at the RPD, which I thought was brilliant! That tied directly into the canon also. I really need to beat File #2, it is just so rediculously hard! |
| | | Ghost Leader Admin
Posts : 4809 Join date : 2008-12-20 Age : 40 Location : Rent-free in Peter Anderson's head
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:06 pm | |
| If the Outbreaks are canon, then tell me how Leon and Claire didn't already know about the city being quarantined? The military blockading every entryway into the city would have made the news pretty quick. Well, except that major highway they conveniently forgot about on which Leon and Claire drove into town. The Outbreaks do contradict canon, you've just got to look a little deeper to see it. |
| | | PWNERX Leech Zombie
PWNER-XIII Steam : pwner_xiii Posts : 2156 Join date : 2013-01-04 Age : 27 Location : On the Edge of Reality
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:17 pm | |
| Wait one friggen minute: In RE2/3, everyone was infected from the water contamination, or Nemesis Tentical powers. So... if someone was killed after being attacked by zombies, they would turn into zombies themselves. Marvin was killed from that big ol wound on his gut/blood loss, and turned afterwards. The same goes for Forest, Joe, everyone at the Mansion who was bitten or had prior infection via water/direct injection, or even anyone who isn't Jill. Also, as the infection spread, Leon and Claire would've been on the way there. And, with Brian Irons blocking transmissions from exiting Raccoon City, it was mostly up to Leon and Ben's evidence to learn the truth, as well as anything else. Which means for the two, no RC Radio for you. Also, infection does impede barricade process. As does rioting. |
| | | Ssplain Crimson Head
ResidentJsee Steam : Resident Jsee Posts : 773 Join date : 2013-06-18 Age : 34 Location : Some kind of room
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:48 pm | |
| - Ghost Leader wrote:
- If the Outbreaks are canon, then tell me how Leon and Claire didn't already know about the city being quarantined? The military blockading every entryway into the city would have made the news pretty quick. Well, except that major highway they conveniently forgot about on which Leon and Claire drove into town.
The Outbreaks do contradict canon, you've just got to look a little deeper to see it. I was under the impression that the quarantine went up the day after Leon and Claire rode into town. The quarantine was set up during the daytime, however I do not have any dates to back this up. Are there any known dates for the quarantine? |
| | | Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:44 am | |
| - Ghost Leader wrote:
- If the Outbreaks are canon, then tell me how Leon and Claire didn't already know about the city being quarantined? The military blockading every entryway into the city would have made the news pretty quick. Well, except that major highway they conveniently forgot about on which Leon and Claire drove into town.
The Outbreaks do contradict canon, you've just got to look a little deeper to see it. There is an explanation for Leon and Claire missing the blockade. Here, this is the straight word from Yasuhisa Kawamura who worked on RE3. "Leon and Claire were fortunate (or perhaps unfortunate) in that they were able to slip by the blockade when the military forces quarantining Raccoon City retreated after facing an attack from the zombies.
Raccoon City is located in an isolated area in the mid-west, and is surrounded by stretches of wasteland with nary a building in sight. Since the majority of the citizens had been confirmed dead, the military decided to quickly back off to prevent any unnecessary casualties."Source [here], it's question number 10. |
| | | Known_Hero Crimson Head
Known_Hero Posts : 671 Join date : 2012-01-12 Location : Neptune
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:31 am | |
| RE:ORC had the darkest premise. Send in a elite team to destroy any evidence of Umbrella's involvement and kill any survivors left in the city. If the USS team suceeded, Umbrella would still be in business, Leon, Claire, Ada and possibly Jill would've been dead and who knows what would've happened to Sherry. Imagine the repercussions.
Too bad Slant Six f#%ked it up. |
| | | Mass Distraction Admin
MassDistraction Steam : MassDistraction Posts : 13024 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 33 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:51 am | |
| - Known_Hero wrote:
- RE:ORC had the darkest premise. Send in a elite team to destroy any evidence of Umbrella's involvement and kill any survivors left in the city. If the USS team suceeded, Umbrella would still be in business, Leon, Claire, Ada and possibly Jill would've been dead and who knows what would've happened to Sherry. Imagine the repercussions.
The possible betrayal of your own teammates at the end also adds to the dark tone. I wish they would've done more with it than a random "choose your side" button. |
| | | Sundown31 Helicopter Pilot
Posts : 33 Join date : 2013-08-08
| Subject: Re: Which game had the darkest plot? Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:26 pm | |
| Nemesis.
It's overall vibe was scary, depressing, and hopeless, all while having a monster chase you.
Then again, Resident Evil 1 was pretty dark. Had a hidden-evil vibe goin' on with those state-of-the-art pre-rendered backgrounds. |
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