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Soul Zombie
ChristopherSoul Posts : 137 Join date : 2008-12-30 Age : 33 Location : Outskirts of Raccoon City
| Subject: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:31 pm | |
| It would be interesting no? Especially with though infected by it [Would they be Zombies then? ] |
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Spike991 User BANNED
Posts : 9885 Join date : 2008-12-08
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:05 pm | |
| - Soul wrote:
- It would be interesting no?
Especially with though infected by it [Would they be Zombies then? ] It could be, as Progenitor was used with Las Plagas to create Type 3 Las Plagas, which was seen with the wierd athletic majini in RE5, the ones with shields and spears. |
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Soul Zombie
ChristopherSoul Posts : 137 Join date : 2008-12-30 Age : 33 Location : Outskirts of Raccoon City
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:03 pm | |
| Yeah but the Progenitor Virus, especially in 5, was a excuse by Capcom to not use anything really T-Virus related. "Oh we just used the Progenitor Virus on this, this and this." |
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Moonknight67 RPD Officer
Posts : 210 Join date : 2010-02-23 Age : 33 Location : Rockfort Island
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:27 pm | |
| That is possible, but perhaps they wanted to give the Ganados from RE4 a heavier role. Plus, the Progenitor virus explained a lot of Spencer's and Umbrella's back story, as to why and how Umbrella was founded and what got Spencer into DNA-altering viruses in the first place.
Maybe, due to the fact that it was such a major piece of information, not to mention a pretty big plot device considering it was grown right there in Kijuju, the Progenitor Virus was used on Las Plagas instead of the T-virus. Or it could've just been a matter of convenience. When you have a powerful cell reconstructing virus and the facility to manufacture it right under your nose, you don't ship a giant load of biohazardous viruses from across the world to mess with Las Plagas, especially since there's no guarantee the T-virus would even react properly with Las Plagas. |
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Soul Zombie
ChristopherSoul Posts : 137 Join date : 2008-12-30 Age : 33 Location : Outskirts of Raccoon City
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:36 pm | |
| I think that's the point though, it'd be BEYOND intriguing and interesting to see how Las Plagas would react to a T-Virus modification/injection/etc. Oh Capcom, think of the possibilities! |
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Moonknight67 RPD Officer
Posts : 210 Join date : 2010-02-23 Age : 33 Location : Rockfort Island
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:28 am | |
| But, you see, the most likely result of mixing the T-virus with something as versatile as Las Plagas would be either a very intelligent and powerful race of parasites or a catastrophic collection of monsters, both of which would likely result in a doomsday scenario or something along the lines of "Everyone at the facility was killed and the creatures are roaming wild in the area." type of thing. |
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Soul Zombie
ChristopherSoul Posts : 137 Join date : 2008-12-30 Age : 33 Location : Outskirts of Raccoon City
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:45 am | |
| - Moonknight67 wrote:
- But, you see, the most likely result of mixing the T-virus with something as versatile as Las Plagas would be either a very intelligent and powerful race of parasites or a catastrophic collection of monsters, both of which would likely result in a doomsday scenario or something along the lines of "Everyone at the facility was killed and the creatures are roaming wild in the area." type of thing.
That sounds similar to RE1. |
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Moonknight67 RPD Officer
Posts : 210 Join date : 2010-02-23 Age : 33 Location : Rockfort Island
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:02 pm | |
| Except the zombies in RE1 were being used to formulate combat data before it was leaked into the city by 2 and 3. So it was really all orchestrated. |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:09 pm | |
| - Moonknight67 wrote:
- Except the zombies in RE1 were being used to formulate combat data before it was leaked into the city by 2 and 3. So it was really all orchestrated.
The zombies were an accident. The outbreak was an accident, except to Marcus who decided to pwn everyone. Can't blame him myself. So only the non-zombie B.O.W.s were used to obtain combat information, and even that only occurred after the accidental outbreak. Actually, the zombies shouldn't even be considered B.O.W.s. |
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Flippy147 Raccoon Citizen
Posts : 20 Join date : 2010-02-27 Age : 74 Location : Umbrella Antarctic Base
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:26 pm | |
| The zombies were an accident. The outbreak was an accident, except to Marcus who decided to pwn everyone. Can't blame him myself. So only the non-zombie B.O.W.s were used to obtain combat information, and even that only occurred after the accidental outbreak. Actually, the zombies shouldn't even be considered B.O.W.s.[/quote]
Zombies, whatever the occurance, carry the virus and can spread it to others. And seeing as how they destroyed the City in the first place kind of gives them the right to be considered B.O.W.s. |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:01 am | |
| - Flippy147 wrote:
Zombies, whatever the occurance, carry the virus and can spread it to others. And seeing as how they destroyed the City in the first place kind of gives them the right to be considered B.O.W.s. No, it doesn't. They are not meant for combat. They are very uncontrollable. They become a virus themselves. You can't use them as weapons. |
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Moonknight67 RPD Officer
Posts : 210 Join date : 2010-02-23 Age : 33 Location : Rockfort Island
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:12 am | |
| - NiteKrawler wrote:
- Flippy147 wrote:
Zombies, whatever the occurance, carry the virus and can spread it to others. And seeing as how they destroyed the City in the first place kind of gives them the right to be considered B.O.W.s. No, it doesn't. They are not meant for combat. They are very uncontrollable. They become a virus themselves. You can't use them as weapons. Nite has a point. B.O.W.s are the things like T-103 and the Lickers - genetically modified creatures (usually humans) who can be controlled are are used as weapons. The zombies of the earlier RE series were merely infected with the virus. I suppose they'd be.. victims? However, the Ganados and Majini of 4 and 5 could definitely be considered B.O.W.s, because with the control plaga they could be easily manipulated into an army or anything else they were needed for.. Very efficient. |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:28 am | |
| - Moonknight67 wrote:
- NiteKrawler wrote:
- Flippy147 wrote:
Zombies, whatever the occurance, carry the virus and can spread it to others. And seeing as how they destroyed the City in the first place kind of gives them the right to be considered B.O.W.s. No, it doesn't. They are not meant for combat. They are very uncontrollable. They become a virus themselves. You can't use them as weapons. Nite has a point. B.O.W.s are the things like T-103 and the Lickers - genetically modified creatures (usually humans) who can be controlled are are used as weapons. The zombies of the earlier RE series were merely infected with the virus. I suppose they'd be.. victims?
However, the Ganados and Majini of 4 and 5 could definitely be considered B.O.W.s, because with the control plaga they could be easily manipulated into an army or anything else they were needed for.. Very efficient. Yeah. The Ganados and Majini were BOWs. I'm not even sure if the lickers were though, because I think they may have been an accident too. They are just a super mutated zombie. Really though, even the hunters couldn't really be controlled so I don't even know why Umbrella was wasting their time with that nonsense. The creatures like Nemesis, Mr. X, the Ivans, etc. were the real BOWs. |
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weskersbarber Umbrella Security Service
Posts : 2494 Join date : 2009-05-25 Age : 32 Location : Ireland
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:08 am | |
| - NiteKrawler wrote:
- Moonknight67 wrote:
- NiteKrawler wrote:
- Flippy147 wrote:
Zombies, whatever the occurance, carry the virus and can spread it to others. And seeing as how they destroyed the City in the first place kind of gives them the right to be considered B.O.W.s. No, it doesn't. They are not meant for combat. They are very uncontrollable. They become a virus themselves. You can't use them as weapons. Nite has a point. B.O.W.s are the things like T-103 and the Lickers - genetically modified creatures (usually humans) who can be controlled are are used as weapons. The zombies of the earlier RE series were merely infected with the virus. I suppose they'd be.. victims?
However, the Ganados and Majini of 4 and 5 could definitely be considered B.O.W.s, because with the control plaga they could be easily manipulated into an army or anything else they were needed for.. Very efficient. Yeah. The Ganados and Majini were BOWs. I'm not even sure if the lickers were though, because I think they may have been an accident too. They are just a super mutated zombie. Really though, even the hunters couldn't really be controlled so I don't even know why Umbrella was wasting their time with that nonsense. The creatures like Nemesis, Mr. X, the Ivans, etc. were the real BOWs. what about the sharks and monkeys in re0.what could they possibly be doing with them |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:30 am | |
| I don't know about the monkeys...as for the sharks... - Spoiler:
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weskersbarber Umbrella Security Service
Posts : 2494 Join date : 2009-05-25 Age : 32 Location : Ireland
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:51 am | |
| - NiteKrawler wrote:
- I don't know about the monkeys...as for the sharks...
- Spoiler:
lol. off topic but how do you get on of those portable psn IDs. i have tried so many times to get one but when i go to log in and wont let me |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:58 am | |
| - weskersbarber wrote:
- NiteKrawler wrote:
- I don't know about the monkeys...as for the sharks...
- Spoiler:
lol. off topic but how do you get on of those portable psn IDs. i have tried so many times to get one but when i go to log in and wont let me I had to get mine on the UK Playstation site. I don't think the US site has them still. |
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weskersbarber Umbrella Security Service
Posts : 2494 Join date : 2009-05-25 Age : 32 Location : Ireland
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:04 pm | |
| - NiteKrawler wrote:
- weskersbarber wrote:
- NiteKrawler wrote:
- I don't know about the monkeys...as for the sharks...
- Spoiler:
lol. off topic but how do you get on of those portable psn IDs. i have tried so many times to get one but when i go to log in and wont let me I had to get mine on the UK Playstation site. I don't think the US site has them still. yeah im using the uk site as well. i dont know why but it just wont let me log in |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:07 pm | |
| That's weird. I just updated mine. |
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Moonknight67 RPD Officer
Posts : 210 Join date : 2010-02-23 Age : 33 Location : Rockfort Island
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:09 pm | |
| Umbrella was kinda notorious for creating a bunch of uncontrollable monsters, weren't they? Besides the different Tyrant types, they didn't really create any good B.O.W.s, did they? Except maybe Nemesis, but wasn't he basically a Tyrant, too? Same basic idea, anyways.
It wasn't until Tricell came along that the real B.O.W.s surfaced, like the Popokarimu (the giant bat spider thing). I guess Saddler had them as well, but weren't they just plaga infected creatures? I've wondered about that, actually. How one human with a plaga became a ganado, and another became El Gigante. And what about Salazar, and his two bodyguards? Or Del Lago?
How did all of those come about, really? |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:32 pm | |
| - Moonknight67 wrote:
- Umbrella was kinda notorious for creating a bunch of uncontrollable monsters, weren't they? Besides the different Tyrant types, they didn't really create any good B.O.W.s, did they? Except maybe Nemesis, but wasn't he basically a Tyrant, too? Same basic idea, anyways.
It wasn't until Tricell came along that the real B.O.W.s surfaced, like the Popokarimu (the giant bat spider thing). I guess Saddler had them as well, but weren't they just plaga infected creatures? I've wondered about that, actually. How one human with a plaga became a ganado, and another became El Gigante. And what about Salazar, and his two bodyguards? Or Del Lago?
How did all of those come about, really? I think the Plagas were modified for each different creature. |
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Moonknight67 RPD Officer
Posts : 210 Join date : 2010-02-23 Age : 33 Location : Rockfort Island
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:18 pm | |
| - NiteKrawler wrote:
- I think the Plagas were modified for each different creature.
Perhaps. But how would Saddler have the equipment to really modify at least three different types of Las Plagas? The Del Lago, El Gigante, Plus Salazar and his "hands"?, along with Mendez and Saddler himself? Seems like a lot of effort just to surround himself with them, especially El Gigante. He was just a psychotic beast anyways. Did they keep him around just for ex-cops sent to find the president's daughter? |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:40 pm | |
| - Moonknight67 wrote:
- NiteKrawler wrote:
- I think the Plagas were modified for each different creature.
Perhaps. But how would Saddler have the equipment to really modify at least three different types of Las Plagas?
The Del Lago, El Gigante, Plus Salazar and his "hands"?, along with Mendez and Saddler himself?
Seems like a lot of effort just to surround himself with them, especially El Gigante. He was just a psychotic beast anyways. Did they keep him around just for ex-cops sent to find the president's daughter? Saddler didn't. Luis did. As for Saddler, Mendez, and Salazar, different forms of natural Plagas were used. It is kind of confusing because they are called different things. Some say that Saddler had the Control Plaga, or Queen. Salazar and Mendez had what many call the Master Plaga. The terminology is weird and I may have gotten it wrong (I'm going from memory), because it seems that the Master should be the highest form. In any case, It went Saddler's Plaga>Mendez and Salazar's Plagas>regular Plagas. |
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Flippy147 Raccoon Citizen
Posts : 20 Join date : 2010-02-27 Age : 74 Location : Umbrella Antarctic Base
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:52 pm | |
| Well sorry to ruin the new subject in this post but im but to argue once more. Even when zombies can't be controlled, they can be used as tools of destruction. They are hosts to the t-virus, much like a gun to the bullet. You need a bullet to make the gun useful. Another way to address them as weapons, They do indeed kill things. I feel like both of you address the idea as some maniacs walking around killing people and saying they are not dangerous. |
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NiteKrawler Uroboros
NiteKrawler Posts : 7504 Join date : 2009-03-14 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:01 pm | |
| - Flippy147 wrote:
- Well sorry to ruin the new subject in this post but im but to argue once more. Even when zombies can't be controlled, they can be used as tools of destruction. They are hosts to the t-virus, much like a gun to the bullet. You need a bullet to make the gun useful. Another way to address them as weapons, They do indeed kill things. I feel like both of you address the idea as some maniacs walking around killing people and saying they are not dangerous.
Being dangerous and being a weapon are two different things. A serial killer is dangerous. A marine is a weapon. In order for the T-Virus zombies to be considered weapons, they would have to be able to get a job done, and then no longer be a threat to the user. The reality (a bit of an ironic use of the word) is that these zombies will stop at nothing and cannot be controlled. |
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