Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:54 am
Mass Distraction wrote:
RaviorStygian wrote:
Okay, obviously I wasn't paying attention, but did Raymond seriously kill everyone on that ship and infect them? O'Brien was really okay with that? And if he did, Rachael would have been aware of what was going on.
I think it was Jack Norman who infected the place beforehand. Since no connections to Veltro were found on the scene I guess O'Brian just used the infection as something to blame on them. That plot point was pretty confusing, to be honest.
Could be or another Veltro member.The virus could have gone out because of an accident in the lab,for example. Anyway,I'm pretty sure Raymond and O'Brian have nothing to do with the infection on the ship.In fact,I got the impression that those people had died a long time before Jill and Parker got on the ship.
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:53 am
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Mass Distraction wrote:
RaviorStygian wrote:
Okay, obviously I wasn't paying attention, but did Raymond seriously kill everyone on that ship and infect them? O'Brien was really okay with that? And if he did, Rachael would have been aware of what was going on.
I think it was Jack Norman who infected the place beforehand. Since no connections to Veltro were found on the scene I guess O'Brian just used the infection as something to blame on them. That plot point was pretty confusing, to be honest.
Could be or another Veltro member.The virus could have gone out because of an accident in the lab,for example. Anyway,I'm pretty sure Raymond and O'Brian have nothing to do with the infection on the ship.In fact,I got the impression that those people had died a long time before Jill and Parker got on the ship.
Hmmm, interesting deduction Ravior. O'Brian surely wouldn't have been ok with the use of T-Abyss being used on the passengers on the Zenobia and Semaramis.
Have you people seen the vid where Rachel is seen getting killed by an Ooze? It show someone dressed in Veltro gear, including a gas mask and a voice changing apparatus, infecting people. I am sure it is Raymond, you see the guy at the end standing over the Chris mannequin saying, "Mr. Red field, the show is about to begin." With some epic and eerie music playing. It's honestly a really cool scene, and I am baffled that Capcom did not include it, and more, including an extra tale showing the behind the scenes stuffs. Revelations Gold Edition perhaps? It's the perfect move for Capcom at this point, taking our money with petty rereleases and ports is their favorite. Mine too.
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They brought Sherry back. They retconned Survivor. They showed Steve's blood sample in use. All these years from the initial games' releases.
Excellent point, I was going to mention Sherry. When you say they showed Steve's blood sample in use, are you referring to Javier?
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:34 am
Spike Reaver wrote:
Have you people seen the vid where Rachel is seen getting killed by an Ooze? It show someone dressed in Veltro gear, including a gas mask and a voice changing apparatus, infecting people. I am sure it is Raymond, you see the guy at the end standing over the Chris mannequin saying, "Mr. Red field, the show is about to begin." With some epic and eerie music playing. It's honestly a really cool scene
I still think that's Jack Norman. He uses the same exact outfit and is evil as hell.
Also yes, I'm referring to Operation Javier.
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:42 am
Mass wrote:
Survivor was a spinoff. Gaiden was also a spinoff and they at least tried to tie that to the main canon, even if they dropped it later.
I really don't think we'll ever see Quint and Keith again, despite the fact that I really love those characters. O'Brian and Parker retired, but the only people we might see is Jessica and Raymond because they were left open ended. I don't think we'll ever visit what happened to them though, because I think Capcom will reboot the series befpre they get the chance. Furthermore: where is Claire? We haven't gotten under her skin in a while.
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:52 am
Vandal wrote:
Mass wrote:
Survivor was a spinoff. Gaiden was also a spinoff and they at least tried to tie that to the main canon, even if they dropped it later.
I really don't think we'll ever see Quint and Keith again, despite the fact that I really love those characters. O'Brian and Parker retired, but the only people we might see is Jessica and Raymond because they were left open ended.
Parker didn't retire - he returned to the B.S.A.A. after a month of recovery.
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:22 am
Mass Distraction wrote:
Spike Reaver wrote:
Have you people seen the vid where Rachel is seen getting killed by an Ooze? It show someone dressed in Veltro gear, including a gas mask and a voice changing apparatus, infecting people. I am sure it is Raymond, you see the guy at the end standing over the Chris mannequin saying, "Mr. Red field, the show is about to begin." With some epic and eerie music playing. It's honestly a really cool scene
I still think that's Jack Norman. He uses the same exact outfit and is evil as hell.
Also yes, I'm referring to Operation Javier.
Jack Norman? Yeah, he probably swam up from the bottom of the sea from the Queen Dido swam across the ocean to infect the passengers on the Zenobia and Semaramis, then swam back to the ocean floor to meet Chris and Jill in the Dido.
The Terrigrigia Panic was an entire year before the events of RER. Btw doesn't Rachel get killed right before your eyes?
Oh, and the Veltro guy in the vid is tall and lanky, like Raymond "The Stick" Vester, not Norman.
I think Norman is one of my favs too, probly in my top ten. I also liked his mutation, even if he had an annoying ass boss fight, in which Chris just stands in the corner and watches me die like 4 or 5 times. And each attempt took like 15 minutes. FML
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:03 am
Spike Reaver wrote:
Mass Distraction wrote:
Spike Reaver wrote:
Have you people seen the vid where Rachel is seen getting killed by an Ooze? It show someone dressed in Veltro gear, including a gas mask and a voice changing apparatus, infecting people. I am sure it is Raymond, you see the guy at the end standing over the Chris mannequin saying, "Mr. Red field, the show is about to begin." With some epic and eerie music playing. It's honestly a really cool scene
I still think that's Jack Norman. He uses the same exact outfit and is evil as hell.
Also yes, I'm referring to Operation Javier.
Jack Norman? Yeah, he probably swam up from the bottom of the sea from the Queen Dido swam across the ocean to infect the passengers on the Zenobia and Semaramis, then swam back to the ocean floor to meet Chris and Jill in the Dido.
The Terrigrigia Panic was an entire year before the events of RER. Btw doesn't Rachel get killed right before your eyes?
Oh, and the Veltro guy in the vid is tall and lanky, like Raymond "The Stick" Vester, not Norman.
I meant that he propably infected the place beforehand. Like, the stuff you see in the cutscenes could be flashbacks. The suit is also pretty bulky so I didn't really see any difference in their size.
Btw. What's your obsession with Rachel's death scene?
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:38 am
will1234562 wrote:
Vandal wrote:
Mass wrote:
Survivor was a spinoff. Gaiden was also a spinoff and they at least tried to tie that to the main canon, even if they dropped it later.
I really don't think we'll ever see Quint and Keith again, despite the fact that I really love those characters. O'Brian and Parker retired, but the only people we might see is Jessica and Raymond because they were left open ended.
Parker didn't retire - he returned to the B.S.A.A. after a month of recovery.
Christ, okay so if he ever does come back he'll be a short split second cameo. Otherwise, he partook in a story that has no affect to the main RE timeline. Just like RE6. Who can put money on Helena not returning? In the end she was just following Leon around after making him run around in circles and evidently making no progress at all. Parker was pretty much doing the same with Jill. He was just there.
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:53 am
Mass Distraction wrote:
I meant that he propably infected the place beforehand. Like, the stuff you see in the cutscenes could be flashbacks. The suit is also pretty bulky so I didn't really see any difference in their size.
Btw. What's your obsession with Rachel's death scene?
They could be flashbacks maybe. You think the Ooze guys were sitting around playing checkers for a year?
An what about the Chris mannequin? "Mr. Redfield, the show is about to begin...in 365 days"? It just doesn't add up. It has to be Raymond The Stick.
And it's not an obsession, I just like the behind the scenes visuals in there, actually seeing more of Rachel and the gas mask Veltro guy(Raymond) that we hardly get to see at all. It could have made a perfect side mission ala LIN, DE, 4th Survivor, Separate Ways, etc.
And I like Rachel too. Unique look, funny voice actress and all. Plus Jill looks so different in that game.
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:37 pm
Spike Reaver wrote:
Mass Distraction wrote:
I meant that he propably infected the place beforehand. Like, the stuff you see in the cutscenes could be flashbacks. The suit is also pretty bulky so I didn't really see any difference in their size.
Btw. What's your obsession with Rachel's death scene?
They could be flashbacks maybe. You think the Ooze guys were sitting around playing checkers for a year?
An what about the Chris mannequin? "Mr. Redfield, the show is about to begin...in 365 days"? It just doesn't add up. It has to be Raymond The Stick.
And it's not an obsession, I just like the behind the scenes visuals in there, actually seeing more of Rachel and the gas mask Veltro guy(Raymond) that we hardly get to see at all. It could have made a perfect side mission ala LIN, DE, 4th Survivor, Separate Ways, etc.
And I like Rachel too. Unique look, funny voice actress and all. Plus Jill looks so different in that game.
The ooze are mostly liquid so I guess they could have just acted as puddles waiting for prey to arrive. If it was Raymond then he definitely went rogue.
I agree, they should definitely have shed some light on this. Considering how much Capcom loves DLC they definitely should be doing something like an extra scenario. I love that kind of stuff.
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:46 pm
Vandal wrote:
will1234562 wrote:
Vandal wrote:
Mass wrote:
Survivor was a spinoff. Gaiden was also a spinoff and they at least tried to tie that to the main canon, even if they dropped it later.
I really don't think we'll ever see Quint and Keith again, despite the fact that I really love those characters. O'Brian and Parker retired, but the only people we might see is Jessica and Raymond because they were left open ended.
Parker didn't retire - he returned to the B.S.A.A. after a month of recovery.
Christ, okay so if he ever does come back he'll be a short split second cameo. Otherwise, he partook in a story that has no affect to the main RE timeline. Just like RE6. Who can put money on Helena not returning? In the end she was just following Leon around after making him run around in circles and evidently making no progress at all. Parker was pretty much doing the same with Jill. He was just there.
Which is why I wished Claire was Leon's partner. Then again, it may have seem sudden. But as you said, Helena wouldn't have made any real progress.
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:51 pm
I doubt Helena or Piers will return. I Pray Sheva does not return. I doubt we will see Parker. It would be fun to see O'Brian and Quint and Keith again, especially O'Brian.
Oh, and Sherry should never show up again, just because it took so long for her to show up again after her initial RE2 appearance(not counting her appearance in DSC).
I would also like to see Jessica and Raymond show up again, together or not.
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:50 pm
Let's see. Seven more passengers added to the bus of eternity. Barry, Rebbecca, HUNK, and Carlos have more company.
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:23 pm
Spike Reaver wrote:
Oh, and Sherry should never show up again, just because it took so long for her to show up again after her initial RE2 appearance(not counting her appearance in DSC).
Yeah, far be it for her to actually grow up before she starts fighting bio weapons. No, it's better she show up as a child soldier instead.
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:34 pm
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Spike Reaver wrote:
Oh, and Sherry should never show up again, just because it took so long for her to show up again after her initial RE2 appearance(not counting her appearance in DSC).
Yeah, far be it for her to actually grow up before she starts fighting bio weapons. No, it's better she show up as a child soldier instead.
he does put up a very good point
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Subject: Re: Jessica and Raymond and Rachel Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:00 pm
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Spike Reaver wrote:
Oh, and Sherry should never show up again, just because it took so long for her to show up again after her initial RE2 appearance(not counting her appearance in DSC).
Yeah, far be it for her to actually grow up before she starts fighting bio weapons. No, it's better she show up as a child soldier instead.
She didn't have to be a fighter. She could have been in a non combative role as he was on RE2, cept she would have her useful G powers. Gangsta.
I remember people thinking Sherry might show up as a villain, like back in RE5. Way off. I still want to know who that chick in the red dress was. I still think that was Sherry.