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Even the DS version of RE1 does have the knife button which, surprise surprise, is L1. So even this point is now moot. Honestly, the only difference is the aiming system and the tank controls were present in all titles until ORC and RE6. Since it's now 9-1 in favor of the controls being the same, this argument has met its end.
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Also what does the quickness of turning and not getting stuck on walls have to do with the controls? That falls under technical proficiency, not controls. Your whole argument makes no sense.
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You can deny it all you want, but the fact remains that RE4's controls are pretty much button-for-button identical to previous games.
You can deny i8t alkl you want, but the fact remains that RE4's controls are pretty much button-for-button vastly improved from previous games
Wow, I'm sure convinced now! :roll:It's obvious to everyone here that you clearly have no solid basis to validate your claim. All you can do is ignorantly brush everything that myself, Vandal, Narwhals, and Mcghie have said aside simply because it doesn't conform to what you want to believe. You might as well just be holding your hands over your ears and repeatedly shouting "you're wrong" louder than anyone else around you is talking.
If the controls had not been fixed, it would take half a freaking hour to turn around, and you would get stuck on walls all the time. You don't. The controls are much improved. That is a fact. GEt over it already.
You're right, it doesn't take me half an hour to turn around. It never did in the entire history of this franchise. Nor have I ever had issues with getting "stuck on walls", whatever the hell that means. The only difference between RE4 and its predecessors is, as has already been stated but you continue to ignore, the camera angle and more powerful hardware making it run more fluidly. The controls themselves are almost button-for-button the same.

And for the love of Zeus, edit your post instead of posting umpteen times back to back. Neutral
So basically you've never played Resident Evil. Why are you here?
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Also what does the quickness of turning and not getting stuck on walls have to do with the controls? That falls under technical proficiency, not controls. Your whole argument makes no sense.
My argument makes perfect sense. You just don't want to get it. that is your fault. It is not mine.
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Even the DS version of RE1 does have the knife button which, surprise surprise, is L1. So even this point is now moot. Honestly, the only difference is the aiming system and the tank controls were present in all titles until ORC and RE6. Since it's now 9-1 in favor of the controls being the same, this argument has met its end.
And I am still right. The controls are, in fact, NOT the same.
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RE 1-5 all have tank controls. This simply means that no matter what, you push up to go forward. And you must turn yourself manually to actually turn. I haven't played RE 6 but I assume it also has tank controls. If you say RE4 does not have tank controls, that just means you don't know what tank controls are.
If I push the stick up at an angle, Leon goes at that angle. RE4 does NOT have tank controls. This is a fact.
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So RE4 does not have tank controls. Instead of going in whatever direction when you push up, Leon goes where you point him.

Dude, replay the game and come back to us.
Dude take your own advice. I have played it several times. I know what I am talking about
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No. Just learn the definition of tank controls. Do you ever, at any time in RE4, press right, left, or down or ANYTHING other than forward on the joystick to move forward? No. That is tank controls.
Your statement makes no sense. You are suggesting that controlling any character in any game ever is tank controls .You are wrong, kid.,
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I've added a game to the PS3 family. That game, is Resident Evil Revelations. In 2 months time, GTA V.

And pretty much every main game before 6 had tank controls. I don't see this much, but people actually complained that 6 didn't have tank controls despite complaining of tank controls in the past.
Except for 4 and 5
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So RE4 does not have tank controls. Instead of going in whatever direction when you push up, Leon goes where you point him.

I've already explained this to you in detail.
ITS BECAUSE SINCE RE4 THE GAME HAS CHANGED TO A DYNAMIC CAMERA SETUP THE CAMERA FOLLOWS THE CHARACTER.
I'm not going to fucking repeat myself for the fifth time and explain why this has an impact on the feeling of movement.
It's all camera perspectives.
I know I already told you to check it out but now I'm telling you in order to gain a perspective on the subject please for your own sake get RE4 for the PC and
download the mod I was referencing in my earlier posts.
I will even rip my copy of the game and send you it personally if it will get you understand better.
Either that or study game design, however the later could take years so I'd advice you to stick with the first option.  
And because the controls were improved. I keep saying this. You keep forgetting it. Try paying attention.
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Hmmm...

Analyzation: R1 still aims, Start is still inventory. X is action, Box is to Run, O to cancel, Triangle...meh. Dpad movement is still the same. Select is still options, yet L1 is now knife, and you cannot use it while aiming to auto-target. Also, aiming is now camera based, while the older style is a aim, up/down/forward, fire. Difference: RE4: 1 major difference. Valereth: Your argument is now invalid.
So basically you are wrong and you need to play RE4 again
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Okay. Well, in any case, please do edit your posts so you only have one at a time instead of double posting. One of the rules.
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You know what, to save myself from frustration, and to save my head from constant face palming, I give up. You win. RE4 has a totally new control scheme and plays nothing like those old RE games with shitty controls... Happy now? Or do you want to discuss about whether grass is green or not?
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You know what, to save myself from frustration, and to save my head from constant face palming, I give up. You win. RE4 has a totally new control scheme and plays nothing like those old RE games with shitty controls... Happy now? Or do you want to discuss about whether grass is green or not?
I would not say it plays nothing like the previous games. 5 does. 5 is an action game. IT gets rid of the whole horror vibe. 4 still had that, though.,
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So now we are talking atmosphere? I think you just use your terms way differently than most other gamers.
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Can we all just agree he has no idea what he's talking about and deem him a dunce?
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Can we all just agree he has no idea what he's talking about and deem him a dunce?
That's not a nice thing to say about nitekrawler

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So now we are talking atmosphere? I think you just use your terms way differently than most other gamers.
No. I don't. RE4 has a completely different feel from RE5
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I never said it didn't.
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I never said it didn't.
If you agree, why did you argue?
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Because you said they played differently. That has nothing to do with atmosphere.
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So...basically...you have no point....at all.

The atmosphere of a game can effect how you play
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So basically you've never played Resident Evil. Why are you here?
I've actually played it many, many times and, no, I've really never had any problems turning around quickly or gotten stuck in a wall (again, whatever the latter is). And I'm here because of intelligent people such as Spike, Nite, Vandal, Miss Claire Redfield, Mass, and Meth, whom I like and enjoy conversing with.

Just more proof to everyone here that you have no solid basis to stand on and just want to be argumentative.

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Can we all just agree he has no idea what he's talking about and deem him a dunce?
That's horribly insensitive! Dunces aren't this dumb.

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The atmosphere of a game can effect how you play
Atmosphere and controls are two completely different things.


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I've added a game to the PS3 family. That game, is Resident Evil Revelations. In 2 months time, GTA V.

And pretty much every main game before 6 had tank controls. I don't see this much, but people actually complained that 6 didn't have tank controls despite complaining of tank controls in the past.
Except for 4 and 5
Dude...are you really that ignorant?
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I've added a game to the PS3 family. That game, is Resident Evil Revelations. In 2 months time, GTA V.

And pretty much every main game before 6 had tank controls. I don't see this much, but people actually complained that 6 didn't have tank controls despite complaining of tank controls in the past.
Except for 4 and 5
Dude...are you really that ignorant?
The answer to that should be painfully obvious by now.
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